The Scale Is Finally Moving Again

Eva (00:00):
Oh, I got on the scale and I was shocked.

 

Kami (00:04):
Ooh, tell me.

 

Eva (00:05):
Shocked.

 

Kami (00:06):
Tell me right now.

 

Eva (00:07):
Last time I got on the scale, it was probably in May, according to my tracker. That's a wild. I have been stuck at 186 or 187 for a gazillion years, probably a year and a half or longer. And I got on the scale and it said .

 

Kami (00:25):
Girl, that's awesome.

 

Eva (00:27):
So between May. And I ate a whole bunch of ice cream in July, so I'm pretty sure it was after that. How come you're home early from work?

 

Kami (00:37):
Because I went in early because I woke up early and then I didn't have a lot of work on my plate. So I was able to buzz out a little early. Then I'm exhausted because last night, I don't think I fell asleep till after 11:00 and got up at five. And then the night before I slept so much that I was late for work. And then the two nights before that it was like four hours here, five hours there. So I am absolutely ready for this week to be over.

 

Eva (01:07):
Awesome.

 

Kami (01:08):
Let me tell you something.

 

Eva (01:09):
I was so excited because it was Wednesday and I could watch Ted Lasso and then I fell asleep halfway through. So then when I woke up this morning, I was like, "Woo-hoo, I have another half of Ted Lasso to watch." So I did that.

 

Kami (01:25):
Nice. Yeah. Well, so last night was a little bit of a. We had some neighborhood drama. There's the guy that lives just kind of catty corner from me. Elderly gentleman, lives alone, wife divorced him four years ago, three years ago.

 

Eva (01:49):
Did he spend too much time alone?

 

Kami (01:51):
Well, he's got to be in his 70s, if not pushing 80, and she's half his age, his ex-wife. So I'm like, "Okay." Anyways, I get some text messages from a former resident to me and a couple other people in the neighborhood and it was like, "Hey, the ex-wife called. Can you go check on..." I guess I can say his name is Bill, whatever. So can you go check on Bill and make sure he is not dead?This is the text. I'm like, "Fuck."

 

Eva (02:22):
That's what the police are for.

 

Kami (02:25):
The police were already here when I got the text message. They had already arrived maybe five or. My husband had came in from, was at the park with Cordelia, came in and he's like, "Yeah, there's a police officer at Bill's house." And I'm like, "Oh, maybe wellness check." And that's what my husband said. And then 10 minutes later I get the text and I'm like, "Well, everyone's already here, so let's figure out what's going on." Long story short, he fell and couldn't get up. And he told the police officer, this is how out of it he was. He told the police officer, "I've been laying on this floor for a couple weeks."

 

Eva (03:01):
Weeks?

 

Kami (03:02):
Weeks. I said, "Without food and water, you would be dead after probably five days with all of the medical problems that you have, sir." He was probably just severely dehydrated, malnourished. He was out of his mind on top of the fact that he has a boatload of medical issues and he's elderly. So I'm on the phone with the ex-wife. I give her all the deeds. I'm like, "He's getting loaded in the ambulance. They're taking him to this specific hospital. Here's all the blah, blah, whatever." And then my next door neighbor directly next to me is like, "Oh, hey, I think he has a cat." I'm like, "Oh, well, I don't mind feeding the cat at the neighbor's house. Just leave the back door open and I'll just go in whatever, no big deal." And then I went into the house.

 

Eva (03:47):
Oh no.

 

Kami (03:49):
It was a horror show. The stench in this home was like nothing I've ever experienced. I've seen hoarders, but it's not smell of vision. You aren't really experiencing the whole thing. Now, he is not a hoarder, just an elderly man that is too frail to clean up after himself or push a vacuum. Can't do it.

 

Eva (04:13):
For how long do you think?

 

Kami (04:15):
Probably at least, so I went and experienced that whole thing. We couldn't find the cat. She was probably terrified. She's old herself. She's 14 years old. And ironically, her name is Dolly. Oh, no. And I was like, "I ain't losing two dollies in two days.That is not happening. I am already devastated. God rest your soul, Dolly Parton, celebrity who's anybody has done so many videos on what all the amazing things she's done in her career." Anyways, I'm not going to cry. So I was like, "Well, I really have to save this cat now." So I go into the house with my next door neighbor. He's got medical equipment everywhere. He's got two or three oxygen tanks. He's got those big. I don't know what they're called, but you put them on your legs and they massage your legs so you don't get blood clots. I don't know what that is.

 

(05:13):
If you're a medical person, comment or send us a message and say. But it's like a machine and you can see it's right next to the recliner in front of the TV. So he puts these things on his legs while he's watching TV or chilling or whatever. I'm like, okay. Then we go into the primary bedroom and there's more medical equipment in there. And then I go into the bathroom in there and it is horrific, horrific. The toilet bowl is so blackened with whatever's in there that there's no way you can flush that toilet. And there's a coffee cup of cigarette butts on the sink. And this man is on oxygen twenty four seven, so I'm like, "You're still smoking? Oh my God." So I go into the guest bedroom and it actually looks like, I mean, very minimally decorated, but there's a bed, it's got a comforter, the pillows are on it.

 

(06:14):
There's just some other random things. There's also water bowls on the floor for the cat, which I thought was weird to have in a bedroom with carpet, but okay. And then I look on the wall and it says his name, the plaque says his name, Doctor of Psychology.

 

Eva (06:32):
What?

 

Kami (06:32):
Dude is a PhD and apparently taught at one of the universities here, the big one. So every step I take in this house is more heartbreaking than the next. We get a bowl, we find a random bowl, fill it up with water, find a random bowl, fill it up with food. And this all happened last night around eight o'clock. So we walk out, I call the ex-wife and I say, "I don't know how to tell you this, but I just walked out of a horror show. This house is absolutely disgusting." The stench was so bad my eyes were burning and my nose was on fire and my throat was sore. I said, "With the health problems that he has, he cannot come back to this house. There's no way." I said, "So I mean, you do what you want. I know he's your ex-husband." And she's like, "Well, I do still manage all of his money and make sure that the bills are paid."

 

Eva (07:43):
Wow.

 

Kami (07:45):
I was like, "Well, you're a better ex-wife than me." Because I would be like. He has a daughter that lives in Florida. He's like, "Oh, she's just like..." I said, "Well, you know what? You can pay online bills in Florida too. That's really a thing." So I download all that to her. There's trash all over the floor. There's food. It appeared to be possibly donuts in a box that were so corroded with mold, you couldn't even hardly tell what type of food it was. And I don't know if you've ever had a cat that eats wet food, but when they eat it -

 

Eva (08:27):
Oh, I have a cat right now that only eats wet food because she's so old she can't eat dry food.

 

Kami (08:32):
Right. So I think what he was doing is just putting the can of food on the floor and she was eating it. Well, when they're eating it, they're kind of splashing it around.

 

Eva (08:43):
Oh, I know.

 

Kami (08:44):
So that you have to wipe up. So the cat food stuff is all over the floor on the cabinets.

 

Eva (08:52):
The cat food smells awful anyway.

 

Kami (08:55):
Right. I know. My cats are spoiled. The two cats share one can of cat food a day, otherwise they get dry food. Anyways.

 

Eva (09:03):
Mine can't eat dry food anymore.

 

Kami (09:05):
Oh, did her teeth fall out?

 

Eva (09:08):
No, but she's like 18 and she can't digest it anymore.

 

Kami (09:12):
Yeah. Our cat, our older cat that passed, we were just getting her wet food. Anyhow, so I tell her the whole story about everything that I see, and then I tell her, "Look, I will go in and see if I can put eyes on her because I'm like..." And according to the police officer, he's like, "It obviously has not been two weeks." He's like, "It's been maybe a couple of days." But I'm like, "I don't know what kind of health condition this cat is in."

 

Eva (09:42):
You mean two days since he fell or two days since he was on the floor for two days before he called somebody?

 

Kami (09:50):
He couldn't get up. So the only reason anybody got called was because I guess his daughter was trying to get ahold of him and he wasn't answering the phone.

 

Eva (09:59):
Oh.

 

Kami (10:00):
She's the one that -

 

Eva (10:00):
So he could have just died there on the floor if nobody had.

 

Kami (10:03):
Absolutely.

 

Eva (10:04):
Oh no.

 

Kami (10:05):
Yeah. So she's the one that called for the wellness check, not the ex-wife. So I tell her, I was like, "Okay, if the cat's gone without water for a couple of days and she's that elderly, she could be dead in there somewhere." So I have to go back in. After we're done here, I will be going back into that house. Now, I work for an insulation company and we do spray foam insulation, which means you have to be fully suited up with a respirator mask and legit stuff because until the spray foam fully cures, it can be toxic if you breathe it. So we have to have all of that gear for our installers. So they gave me some stuff. So I've got the suit and the mask with the respirators. So I'll be putting that on with gloves and I don't know. I'll see what I got to do with my shoes.

 

(11:08):
I don't know. Because I was not going to get on my hands and knees on the carpet and look under the beds to see if she was in there anywhere.

 

Eva (11:19):
On today's episode of Adventures in Property Management.

 

Kami (11:23):
And I'm not even on the HOA anymore or doing any of the property management.

 

Eva (11:26):
Oh, you're not?

 

Kami (11:28):
No. No. So I'm just the neighbor. The last thing I would want is for the ex-wife, because she said, she's like, "I will come on Friday and pick her up." And I'm like, "Okay, well, I for sure need to make sure she's alive because the ex-wife lives about an hour north." So I was like, "I'm not having her leave work early, drive an hour just to discover a dead cat. I can't do that. No way." So if I go in there and see if I can verify that she is alive, then cool. And I'm really tired.

 

Eva (12:07):
Yo, I know.

 

Kami (12:08):
I'm so exhausted.

 

Eva (12:12):
I won't call it therapy, but I have a coach and I just spent two hours talking to him right before we got on.

 

Kami (12:17):
That's therapy. It is.

 

Eva (12:19):
It's pretty much therapy. It's like business therapy.

 

Kami (12:21):
On a certain level you're getting. Yeah.

 

Eva (12:24):
Yeah. It's someone that I've known for almost 30 years.

 

Kami (12:30):
Oh, that's wonderful.

 

Eva (12:31):
So it's a really, really solid and fruitful, positive relationship for me because there's so few people at our age that you still know for that long other than your own family members. The friends that have been around that long are few and far between. So anyway, we were working through a bunch of stuff and being self-employed is not for the faint of heart. I will tell you it is.

 

Kami (12:57):
It isn't. It's really rough, which is why you guys should get all kinds of tax breaks for doing your own thing.You shouldn't be paying more in taxes.

 

Eva (13:06):
He's been working on an invention, which is a fidget, and it is very smart fidget because it is a collapsible ruler. And so no kid, you don't have to get permission to have a ruler at school, right?

 

Kami (13:19):
Right.

 

Eva (13:20):
So he said he was going to send us a bunch and I said I would send you some because I think -

 

Kami (13:26):
Yeah. Oh my God, Kordelia would love it. She would love that.

 

Eva (13:28):
Well, Kari just asked me for a fidget the other day and I was like, "You don't really need a fidget, but you do need a ruler."

 

Kami (13:34):
Hey, there you go.

 

Eva (13:37):
So we got our second official product placement on list of you. It's going to be a fidget that looks like a ruler. It's really cool. I'm really excited about it. I can't wait to get it.

 

Kami (13:49):
Oh, that's exciting. Yeah, I want one.

 

Eva (13:52):
Yes. So I've been working on. I need to hire. I need help. So I've been working on that, which is really hard because it's not so much about what is the job and who does the job, but this particular role is a really challenging one because you have to know how to do a lot of stuff, but it doesn't take a lot of time. So anyway, for a number of reasons, I've been really trying to be thoughtful about how do I do this? And then also, oh, I got on the scale and I was shocked.

 

Kami (14:26):
Ooh, tell me.

 

Eva (14:26):
Shocked.

 

Kami (14:27):
Tell me right now.

 

Eva (14:28):
Last time I got on the scale, it was probably in May, according to my tracker. That's a wild. I have been stuck at 186 or 187 for a gazillion years, probably a year and a half or longer. I got on the scale and it said 180.

 

Kami (14:46):
Girl.

 

Eva (14:47):
I'm like,

 

Kami (14:49):
What happened? That's awesome.

 

Eva (14:53):
So between May. And I ate a whole bunch of ice cream in July, so I'm pretty sure it was after that. When we go to Washington. I'm allowed to eat a whole bunch of ice cream because in Washington, you can get Umpqua ice cream, which is why I eat a whole bunch of ice cream when we are in Washington.

 

Kami (15:13):
Yeah, that's one of the things that I miss is my umpqua ice cream and my tillamook ice cream.

 

Eva (15:18):
But you have graters, don't you? Do you have graters there in Indiana?

 

Kami (15:23):
I don't know, but.

 

Eva (15:24):
It's maybe Ohio or Kentucky.

 

Kami (15:27):
I've never heard of it. But we're kind of. Okay. Well, maybe I'll see if I can find it.

 

Eva (15:33):
Ice cream was the thing that I switched to when I quit smoking.

 

Kami (15:36):
Oh, Uh-huh.

 

Eva (15:38):
Yeah. That is how we ended up here on this podcast talking about losing weight because when I stopped smoking, I started eating ice cream.

 

Kami (15:45):
Everything. Yeah.

 

Eva (15:46):
And then 17 years went by. Yeah.

 

Kami (15:50):
Yep. So I'm down also.

 

Eva (15:54):
Ooh.

 

Kami (15:54):
Yes. So when I started, okay, this is week four. I have to take another shot tomorrow. Or wait, no, tomorrow will be my fourth shot. So I've lost weight for sure. I think I've lost three pounds, but three pounds in three or four weeks is really good.

 

Eva (16:18):
Pound a week.

 

Kami (16:19):
Yeah. I mean, that's great. But I think I overdid it on my last dosage. I'm not going to increase tomorrow because I have some gastrointestinal fucking challenges this past week. It's really been unfun. The heartburn is bonkers. The constipation is horrendous. So I'm like, "Okay." I had to get the chewable laxatives, not just the stool softeners, like the straight up laxatives, and it helped. So I'm like, "Okay, so I need to be..." I think I ramped up too quickly. Whoopsie.

 

Eva (17:00):
I still take two kinds of magnesium every night because you just got to stay in front of it or you're toast.

 

Kami (17:08):
Oh, right. Exactly. I have the magnesium gummies and it's like all eight kinds of magnesium. I don't know. I just whatever. So I was like more

 

Eva (17:16):
We've established that you only eat Flintstone's gummy vitamins.

 

Kami (17:25):
I never grew out of it and I am not upset about it, so it's fine. Yeah. So speaking of that, in case you're new here, we are partnering with Epix Nxt, and you can go onto their website and use coupon code lessofyou10 to get 10% off your order. And that is epixnext, E-P-I-X-N-X-T.com. So anybody wants to hop on there and support the show, we really appreciate it. Love you tons. Oh, speaking of our fans, I have a shout out to somebody.

 

Eva (18:06):
We're going to have to fix the outro now to include Patsy.

 

Kami (18:11):
Oh yeah, yeah.

 

Eva (18:12):
Now we'll say at the end.

 

Kami (18:14):
Oh wait, but we have to call her something else and I'm going to tell you why.

 

Eva (18:16):
Oh, okay.

 

Kami (18:17):
So Ms. Patsy is from Canada, so she's like one of our Canada peeps and I just love that. So she shares this and I messaged her immediately and I was like. Or you had messaged her and then I messaged her again and I was like, "Hey, can we use this story? Can we use your name? So just so everyone knows, I've gotten permission to share the names of the people, first names only of this story." And she says, "I have a funny story to share that reminds me of the Deborah. This past week, we rented an Airbnb for family to celebrate my granddaughter, Pepper's fourth birthday. Pepper, happy birthday to you girl. We were talking about names and I said to my other granddaughter, Sage, who's five, my name is Patsy." And she looked at me and said, "No, you're the nana." I burst out laughing thinking of the Deborah.

 

(19:15):
I was like, "I need to share this because the Deborah's going to think that's an amazing story." So now we will have to say to sign off to the Nana and the Deborah.

 

Eva (19:24):
Okay. Bye Deborah, bye Maureen, and bye Nana.

 

Kami (19:27):
Bye the Nana.

 

Eva (19:27):
Bye the Nana.

 

Kami (19:29):
I was like, "That's such a great story." I mean, because kids that age, they don't really understand. They just are like, "That's my grandma." They're not like, "That's Carol or Pat." You know what I mean? They're not going to.

 

Eva (19:44):
Okay. Which reminds me, you know how weird it is when your kids call you by your first name?

 

Kami (19:49):
Yeah, it is weird.

 

Eva (19:51):
So Kari's got, she's doing club swim team, so she has to go to swim team two days a week. It can be any two days. So she goes Tuesday, Thursday. She's at dance Monday, Wednesday for two and a half hours on Monday and Wednesday. I asked her about 17 times before I signed her up and paid for this, "Are you sure you want this heavy of a schedule? This means every day you have something. You don't have a single day off to fool around." I mean, you do. She has every Friday off from school, but every night she's got an activity. So we're at swim team and they also have the music on at the pool and they were playing gangnam style. And so when she swam by, I went like this and she started laughing. And then for the rest of swim team, every time she swam past me, she would raise her arms up out of the water.

 

Kami (20:42):
Oh, stop it. That's so great. So funny.

 

Eva (20:50):
Why did that remind me of that? Why did I tell you?

 

Kami (20:55):
Because I think you were in reference to the dance versus adding all of that to your schedule. So what is she already dancing while she's at swim so that it counts? So you were asking her for sure if like, "Are you sure you want to do this? Does she back out of dance then?"

 

Eva (21:10):
No, no. Had nothing to do with that either.

 

Kami (21:13):
Oh, okay. Sorry. I thought I was tracking.

 

Eva (21:15):
I truly don't know. I don't know.

 

Kami (21:19):
Perimenopause brain.

 

Eva (21:21):
I'll listen back.

 

Kami (21:23):
Oh my God. So great.

 

Eva (21:25):
So she's getting tons of exercise now and she's started to kind of lose her belly and she's commenting on it too. She's saying like, "My belly's getting smaller. I don't want to get on top of her. I just don't know how to talk to her about..."

 

Kami (21:40):
That is a really difficult conversation to have because children at that age can't disconnect their physical self from who they are as a human on the inside. They're like, "Well, if you need to lose weight, then that translates into like, I am just a terrible person." And it's not true at all.

 

Eva (22:08):
It's not about this moment. It's about 20 years from now because for me -

 

Kami (22:12):
They can't think that far ahead.

 

Eva (22:14):
No, but we can. And so I know that this is when it started for me that we started going to the body shop because we needed to learn how to count how much we were eating and burning. And that was what they did. They probably sent kids to fat camp in the 80s when this was happening to me. Probably still do, and I just don't know about it.

 

Kami (22:37):
Yeah.

 

Eva (22:38):
So I don't want to create any kind of psychological thing that's going to hang around with her like it did for me. And all my mom was trying to do was what was best for me, clearly.

 

Kami (22:46):
Right. But they didn't have the skills and psychological mindset to do that in a healthy way. And then I'm like, "Well, what are we doing?"

 

Eva (22:59):
Yeah. I don't know.

 

Kami (23:00):
Yeah. It's rough. I mean, Kordelia, we've talked about this before, that girl don't eat. But she has the same kind of mentality when doing her homework in the sense that if I get a question wrong, I'm a horrible kid. I'm like, "That is the weirdest thing." So I was like, "I don't remember feeling like that as a kid." And I was like, "Is somebody putting too much pressure on her to be perfect all the time?" Which is absolutely not me and Justin, for sure.

 

Eva (23:36):
Not you.

 

Kami (23:36):
No. I'm like, "Girl, let your freak Fred fly. I don't care." Whatever.

 

Eva (23:40):
Where is it coming from? Maybe it's just who we are.

 

Kami (23:42):
Maybe it's just who she is. It could just be that she's in. I have heard, "Well, yeah, perfectionists are like that." And I'm like, "She just could be that way." And sometimes a lot of people will be like, "Well, if your kid acts like that, where'd they learn it from?" Well, if they didn't learn it from anybody, that's just how they're hardwired. Some people are just anxious and they could have a perfectly normal, beautiful upbringing in a stable home where both parents are loving and there's no abuse going on, and they could just have anxiety. So it isn't a matter of like, "Well, they must have learned that from somebody or something happened to them that made them that way." I'm like, "No, not -

 

Eva (24:25):
Sometimes that is true. If I'm in the other room and I hear them start fighting and I hear Kari screaming at Ellie, I hear my own voice. I go," Oh no, She's yelling at her sister the way that I yell at them exactly the same way. She did learn it somewhere.

 

Kami (24:41):
Right. And that is true. So they do pick up on things, but I think both things can be true at the same time.

 

Eva (24:49):
Yeah.

 

Kami (24:51):
And differentiating what is a learned behavior and what is an inherent behavior is impossible. I mean, I don't know how to do it. I mean, I'm sure there are. If you have a PhD in child psychology, maybe you can figure it out or whatever. I don't.

 

Eva (25:09):
I think those kids are usually the most screwed up.

 

Kami (25:16):
Children of psychologists, it could be.

 

Eva (25:19):
I feel like I've read a book about that somewhere.

 

Kami (25:21):
Yeah.

 

Eva (25:22):
Maybe it was a fiction book, but still.

 

Kami (25:26):
I think that's probably true in some cases.

 

Eva (25:29):
So also I had a follow-up for my face that was last week.

 

Kami (25:35):
Okay.

 

Eva (25:35):
And everybody was so excited about how it looks, and then we took another round of pictures. But truthfully, we don't have to look at pictures. It's really coming out nice and there's a lot less going on down here and it's still really swollen, But another couple of weeks -

 

Kami (25:50):
My internet connection is not super great right now, so you're a little blurry. So you have to send me the actual before and after pictures. I mean, I can see that there's less in the neck area, like in here, and it looks smoother.

 

Eva (26:05):
Yeah. Everything is. I don't have any wrinkles on my face at all. I have them here, but nothing was treated here, but there's nothing. There's not a single wrinkle left on my face.

 

Kami (26:14):
Oh my God. That is awesome.

 

Eva (26:17):
Before, I mean, I had two different treatments done, but before, it was like Saran wrap all the way down.

 

Kami (26:25):
Like that crepey kind of.

 

Eva (26:27):
Yeah. And now it's just smooth. It's going to be so good.

 

Kami (26:32):
Nice. And so you had this procedure how many days, weeks ago from your -

 

Eva (26:37):
17 days. 17 days ago.

 

Kami (26:39):
Oh, okay. So two and a half weeks? Yeah.

 

Eva (26:42):
Can you see it.

 

Kami (26:44):
Yeah, that looks great.

 

Eva (26:46):
So good. Going to be so good.

 

Kami (26:50):
Good. No weird after effects or -

 

Eva (26:55):
Just numb.

 

Kami (26:56):
Okay. So that was going to be my question is, are you numb and will that go away?

 

Eva (27:01):
Yeah, it's going away.

 

Kami (27:02):
Okay.

 

Eva (27:03):
My cheeks are almost back to normal. They feel a little bit like sunburn maybe. That's the closest feeling, but only if you touch it. So I don't notice that anything's going on. And then I did have lipo under my chin, so it's going to be numb longer than the rest of it was because there's a lot more disruption here.

 

Kami (27:24):
Right. Well, and the swelling will last a little bit longer than anything.

 

Eva (27:29):
That looks like a jawline. I don't know.

 

Kami (27:31):
I mean, it does. Yeah. Oh, I'm so happy for you, babe.

 

Eva (27:35):
Yeah. I'm really glad I did it.

 

Kami (27:37):
Oh, I'm so tired. I'm yawning. I got to go in that house and try to find a cat.

 

Eva (27:43):
Okay. Well, report back. I hope the cat's okay.

 

Kami (27:47):
I hope she is too, but I definitely want to get ahead of it if she's passed before this woman comes all the way down here to pick up a dead cat. I mean, I can't do that, so we'll just see what we can do.

 

Eva (28:06):
Didn't I text you? There was something I wanted to talk about.

 

Kami (28:09):
Oh yeah. Hang on. Let me see.

 

Eva (28:10):
The scale feelings went to the doctor. Oh. The scale, I don't get on it. I don't have feelings about the scale anymore. I just get on it and get off of it. It's not all fraught with stuff.

 

Kami (28:25):
Right. Yeah. There's no feelings there, which is good in the sense that I feel like it does matter, but ultimately it doesn't matter. For me, it's like, again, I've talked about this before, it's about overall long health and longevity, not like, "Oh my God, I need to be a size four and get in that tiny bikini because that is what I'm worth as a woman." I'm like, "Nah." I was like, "I can get in that bikini and 280 pounds. I don't give a shit. You don't like it? Look the other way."

 

Eva (28:59):
I don't care. I had a memory of this time. I think I was. You know when they ask you what surgeries have you had in the past on your health history? Well, I've had an appendectomy and I once had. I know what brought it up. I had a splinter in my thumb that wouldn't come out, and we eventually decided it needed to be surgically removed because it was irritating. It was always there. And you don't need a foreign body stuck in your thumb.

 

Kami (29:25):
No, no. Absolutely not.

 

Eva (29:26):
So the hand surgeon made a plan to take it out. But I remember when I went for the consult with the hand surgeon, they wanted me to go on scale. And I was like, "Why? I'm here to talk about my thumb. Why do you need to weigh me? What does my weight have to do with the fact that there's a splinter stuck in my thumb?" And I just had this huge overreaction to them making me get on the scale, and she stopped. She didn't want to fight with me, so she didn't make me do it, but she was like, "You're eventually going to have to get on the scale." I was like, "Fine, but not today."

 

Kami (29:57):
And it's none of your business. Please just do your regular job. And you know what I mean? You're not going under general anesthesia, so they need to know how much medication to give you based on your weight. You got a local, right?

 

Eva (30:10):
Right. Well, actually I got a block. They ended up blocking my whole arm for that.

 

Kami (30:16):
Really?

 

Eva (30:17):
The reason I remembered it was because when I had my face done, they had me get on the scale to calculate the lidocaine dose for my face and for the block. But at a consult for a splinter, you don't need to weigh me.

 

Kami (30:31):
Right. You can weigh me that day and it's not like you're like, "We'd only have so much, so we need to pre-order your stuff." They have it. Jesus.

 

Eva (30:39):
It was nice though to just be like, "Oh, sure. I don't mind getting on the scale."

 

Kami (30:43):
Who cares?

 

Eva (30:44):
No big deal. And the difference between the me that had a tantrum about it when they wanted to weigh me for my splinter and the me now, it's basically two different people.

 

Kami (30:57):
Yeah. Well, I think part of it has to do with just being older and really realizing that the shit that you thought mattered even 10 years ago, it doesn't matter. Does not matter. And I feel like you just have less and less fucks to give and it's so liberating. I just wish that I had this feeling in my 20s and 30s where I was like, "You don't like me? Fuck you. You don't like me, fuck you." You know what I mean? I wasn't constantly trying to get like, "Oh, everybody needs to love me because that is how I calculate my self worth." And now I'm like, "Y'all can take a long walk off a short pier for all I care." And it's the best feeling ever.

 

Eva (32:00):
I have a podcast that I love with two periodontists and a software guy, which sounds like it would be really boring, but it's a -

 

Kami (32:06):
It sounds funny.

 

Eva (32:07):
Such a good show. Yeah. Two periodontists and a software developer walk into a bar. They're really funny. They just don't take themselves too seriously and they care so much about helping the people coming up behind them, the younger generation of dental specialists. And in my heart and in my mind, they're like the perfect customer because they get what I'm doing and I bring them to the world in a way that is really authentic. And they just had their one year anniversary. So we made a clip show and we took the best moment of all 26 episodes and put it in one episode. And right in the middle, there was this female periodontist and her whole thing was, "It's going to be okay." Her episode was about if you could go back and talk, "Why am I holding a fork?"

 

Kami (32:56):
That is some Freudian shit right there. What the heck? I was just going to say, girl, what are you doing?

 

Eva (33:11):
It was just sitting here like a pen and instead of the pen, I picked up the fork.

 

Kami (33:17):
Why is there a fork on your desk in the first place? Let's talk about that.

 

Eva (33:20):
Because I always use a paper plate and so I threw the paper plate away and the fork was still here because I don't want to do the dishes. So I use paper plate.

 

Kami (33:28):
Oh yeah. I also do that occasionally.

 

Eva (33:31):
Anyway, her name was Dr. Traynor. And her clip was, if she could go back and tell her younger self anything, it would be, "It's going to be okay. Whatever it is, it's all going to be okay." And I had to move that to the end. So she's the last thing you hear when you listen to that one is if you're a younger dentist or dental specialist, it felt like the right way to end that. And that's the truth is at our age now that we are around whatever it is, not in our 30s or 40s for me, that part of what we have to start doing is telling people younger than us that it's going to be fine.

 

Kami (34:16):
Right. Yeah.

 

Eva (34:19):
I don't think that's our audience to be fair. I think our audience is -

 

Kami (34:22):
Our audience is us.

 

Eva (34:24):
They already know. Well, we only have three listeners.

 

Kami (34:28):
I know. Maureen, the Deborah and the Nana.

 

Eva (34:31):
I'm not even sure Maureen's still listening. She's going to have to tell me if she. Has she given up?

 

Kami (34:36):
I'll have to be like, "Mom, is Maureen listening?" Because she'll text her and be like, "The girls have released new episodes. You need to catch up."

 

Eva (34:47):
Yeah. We need to get Maureen to come on and talk about what's going on.

 

Kami (34:50):
I would love it. Yes. Because you know that of all the people, this woman has her finger on the pulse. She is going to know and be able to answer questions. Yeah, for sure. We should email her.

 

Eva (35:05):
I'm going to ask her today.

 

Kami (35:06):
Do it.

 

Eva (35:07):
When can she come on the show?

 

Kami (35:08):
Yep.

 

Eva (35:08):
Okay. Me and my fork are going to get back to work. Okay. We're going to get some forking work done.

 

Kami (35:19):
I can't. I can't with you. All right, love. I'll check you out next time.

 

Eva (35:25):
Please tell me how it goes with the kitty.

 

Kami (35:27):
I will for sure. We'll definitely update on the story.

 

Eva (35:31):
Okay.

 

Kami (35:32):
All right. Bye Maureen.

 

Eva (35:34):
Bye Maureen. Bye Deborah.

 

Kami (35:36):
Bye the nana.

 

Eva (35:37):
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