Halloween Costumes Fit Me Now?

Eva (00:00):
For the first time in my entire adult life, I thought to myself, "I could wear a costume. Costumes will fit me now."

 

Kami (00:09):
Girl.

 

Eva (00:10):
Yeah. When until now could I have bought a costume at Spirit Halloween and had it fit?

 

Kami (00:17):
Right.

 

Eva (00:17):
Unless it was like grimace or something.

 

Kami (00:25):
I have so much to tell you.

 

Eva (00:27):
Oh my gosh. I know.

 

Kami (00:31):
And for those just listening, we haven't recorded in like three weeks, two or three weeks, which -

 

Eva (00:39):
We are sorry.

 

Kami (00:40):
Fucking life is life-ing all over us. It's not great.

 

Eva (00:46):
It's not.

 

Kami (00:47):
Do you want to start? Because I have a lot.

 

Eva (00:52):
Well, yeah. I mean, I can give you a little... I did get back in the gym. We started positive things.

 

Kami (00:57):
Oh, okay.

 

Eva (00:58):
Good friend came in.

 

Kami (00:59):
Were you dressed like a whore at the gym?

 

Eva (01:03):
No.

 

Kami (01:06):
Okay. You haven't seen all the controversy about the Shane Gillis from Saturday Night Live and going to the gym after having been gone to the gym in a long time and he's like,

 

Eva (01:15):
Yeah. That has not broken through to me yet.

 

Kami (01:18):
Oh, girl. Okay. Just Google it because he's a fuck. So the whole line, the whole thing was, "Yeah, I haven't been to the gym in a long time. I didn't know women dress like whores now at the gym dressing like whores."

 

Eva (01:37):
Okay.

 

Kami (01:37):
Because they're wearing -

 

Eva (01:39):
Gym shorts?

 

Kami (01:40):
Yeah. Gym shorts and sports bras. Okay. Which is the appropriate thing to wear.

 

Eva (01:45):
If you can wear it, you should. I can't.

 

Kami (01:48):
Seriously. I'm like, first of all, if you're going to show off all of your hard work that you've done on yourself, the gym is the place to do it.

 

Eva (01:58):
Let me just pose a question here since I have kids on swim team. What if they were wearing swimsuits on swim team? Would you call them whores?

 

Kami (02:09):
I wonder. I wonder.

 

Eva (02:11):
I don't think so. That's what you wear.

 

Kami (02:14):
Yeah.

 

Eva (02:15):
Just don't see how it's different. They're just wet over there.

 

Kami (02:19):
Is that better? I don't know. We don't know. It's fine. But yeah, you got to watch that because... So it was Shane Gillis from Saturday Nigh Live said he just is an idiot. He's just a man and he's an idiot. But Dan Levy clapped back and was like, "We need to stand up for women more." And you know I just worship him. So I'm like, "Okay, well my boy's all over it, so I don't need to get involved. So I'm good."

 

Eva (02:43):
Okay.

 

Kami (02:44):
Fuck.

 

Eva (02:45):
Thanks, Dan. Yeah.

 

Kami (02:46):
Appreciate you.

 

Eva (02:48):
No. Okay. So I met a friend for coffee who was in from Chicago and the only time he had for me was 7:00 AM on Saturday morning.I said, Okay, only for you.

 

Kami (02:59):
How does that work?

 

Eva (03:01):
I don't know. I'm up anyway. What's the difference? I'm drinking coffee, so all I had to do was drive 10 minutes down the road. And after we were done, he said, "I got to go meet my other friend at his gym. You want to check it out?" And I was like, "Yeah, cool. I like people. I like gyms. I'll go." As soon as we walked in the door of the gym, I was like, "This is my gym. This is the place I've been looking for." So it's called Metabolic and it's like a strength circuit class. It's never the same thing twice. Everyone there is kind of old and trying not to die by getting stronger. I just was ready for it and it was the right moment. My friend was friends with the owner, and so I hung out with them for another hour and a half, but it was a no brainer. And so I've gone five times and it's really hard. It's really hard.

 

Kami (03:53):
Is it like a circuit situation or?

 

Eva (03:55):
It's kind of like a CrossFit class.

 

Kami (03:58):
Oh, okay.

 

Eva (03:59):
It's organized. It's not too hard. If you're in bad shape or great shape, it is what you make it. It's been really making me very happy. I just fit it in. I made it work and I knew I needed to and I did.

 

Kami (04:16):
Oh, that's good. Yeah. I've been somewhat thinking about that, but I got to find the right place. So there's a gym that's not far from my work, I don't know, one roundabout away, which in Indianapolis is not far. So I'm just wondering if it's too hardcore for me. There's a lot of gym bros and so I'm like, okay. But here's the thing, if I can find someplace that I can leave work and immediately be there, then I would go. I would do it. So that would be the one because it's literally a block away. But if I go past that -

 

Eva (04:59):
It has to be so easy that nothing can get in the way.

 

Kami (05:02):
For sure. Absolutely. So I'm like, okay, well, if I go to that one and I, at the bare minimum, just do a speed walk on a treadmill for half an hour or whatever, and I just crank up my crazy loud music and my headphones and I just zone the fuck out, I think that's what I would do. But I think the membership's like 35 a month, which for a gym membership is not bad at all. But I'm used to the 9.99 at the Planet Fitness over here. So if I did it, I would really have to really commit. And I'm like, okay, if I can do that five days a week, then it's literally better than nothing.

 

Eva (05:46):
If we're not going five days a week, we're not going at all.

 

Kami (05:49):
Well, I'm going to have to have a conversation with myself. It's just going to have to be a come to Jesus with my own self.

 

Eva (05:56):
So the way I got myself off the ledge was Kari's swim team has the really nice fitness center attached to it. The pool has a really beautiful gym and I'm sitting there for an hour at least two days a week watching other people work out. And then I started to be like, I really don't have a good excuse for sitting here anymore. So I finally walked on the treadmill and lifted some weights and then it unlocked the thing in my brain that was like, oh no, something is still better than nothing.

 

Kami (06:30):
Yeah, absolutely. And that's just where I'm at because... Okay.

 

Eva (06:35):
You can stay stuck. It's fine. You're fine.

 

Kami (06:39):
It's all good. It's fucking great.

 

Eva (06:40):
Don't worry about it.

 

Kami (06:43):
Oh God. Okay. So I will transition. My brain is absolute fucking mush right now.

 

Eva (06:50):
Did I also in the good news category?

 

Kami (06:53):
Yes.

 

Eva (06:53):
So you're going to have to start there. You're going to have to come up with something before you go to whatever this thing is that you're going to go to.

 

Kami (06:58):
Well, there's a few things, but continue. Yes.

 

Eva (07:02):
I did get back on the scale and it said 179 and my weight has not had a one and a seven at the front of it.

 

Kami (07:11):
Ever?

 

Eva (07:12):
Since the 90s.

 

Kami (07:16):
Good job, girl.

 

Eva (07:17):
The 1990s.

 

Kami (07:18):
Yeah. I haven't weighed myself in the last couple of weeks. I don't think I've lost. I think I've lost maybe a couple of pounds, but I think it's time for me to up my dosage since I've only been doing half. I think it's time to go up to the next one. So I guess I'll start with -

 

Eva (07:34):
So 179. I got there.

 

Kami (07:36):
I'm so happy for you. I feel like where's the applause button?

 

Eva (07:40):
My whole life is different. Just kidding. It's exactly the same.

 

Kami (07:50):
That's so great. Keep doing that. I feel like we all need that in the background. Oh my God. Okay. All right. So I have three major things to talk about. One is medication change. The second is my daughter's birthday week. And the third one is a criminal incident. So what would you like first?

 

Eva (08:20):
Birthday.

 

Kami (08:20):
Okay, excellent. Let's start there. My daughter turned nine yesterday, so we decide to have her birthday. She wants to go to the zoo and have a sleepover. Perfect. So we do the zoo Saturday. The majority of the children were well-behaved. There was one that was not so well-behaved, and I had to have a discussion with her. I was like, "If you want something from me, you need to ask me and use kind words and you don't shout at me, I'm thirsty," at the top of your voice. That's not how you ask for water. Nope. So after that she straightened up, she was fine. So we do the zoo. And speaking of the working out thing, I was so sore the next day from just walking around the zoo. I mean, we did walk a lot. It was many hours, but it was like walk and stop, you know what I mean? It wasn't rigorous, but my legs were sore.

 

(09:15):
It was just a mess. So we do the sleepover. I have my daughter and one girl who is an angel from heaven, in my opinion, one girl who's also very great, but ADHD and autistic. And then one girl who was the one that was not behaving well at the zoo has apparently a debilitating fear of the dark. And she's actually in therapy for it. Her parents know what's going on. It's not like they're like, "Oh, she's fine." No, they know she needs help and she has, I don't know what kind of anxiety she's got. She's got anxiety. She just can't deal with things not being exactly the way she wants. And she was already prepped that, "Hey, this is going to be a sleepover with other girls." Long story short there, she wakes up at three o'clock in the morning screaming her face off because it's dark and she doesn't like that.

 

(10:13):
And they don't decide to put them all in the living room because it was like there's too many girls to sleep in her room. So she was prepped that it was going to be different than in the normal sleepover. And she continued to have hysteria and all the other girls were upset. They were waking her up and she wasn't calming down. So I had to move her up into Cordelia's room by herself. It was a whole thing. It was a nightmare. It was like a nightmare.

 

Eva (10:40):
I just have questions.

 

Kami (10:42):
Yeah. And when I was talking with her mom about this, I'm like, "Hey, this is all what happened." And she was surprised and not surprised because she's like, she's been doing really good sleeping through the night at home. Up until just recently, she would not sleep through the night. If she woke up and it wasn't full on sun brightness in her room, she'd lose her mind. Not like just, "Oh, I just like it really kind of dim." No, she likes all the lights on. She's stayed at my house several times before where I come home and every single light in the house is on in the morning. She just turn all the lights on. She also saw the red light blink on the smoke detector, lost her mind about that. So she's just riddled with anxiety, this poor kid. And here's the thing, her parents are the same age as Justin and I, same almost mirror situation.

 

(11:38):
They both have very stable jobs. They're very good parents. There's no abuse going on in any capacity. She's just a basket case. She just was born with that way. I hate to even say it like that, but I'm like, this is the truth, right? So anyhow, even Cordelia the next morning, she's like, "I don't think she should come over and just have a sleepover anymore." I'm like, "Oh God." So that was so great.

 

Eva (12:11):
That's a weird one. I have not heard that one before.

 

Kami (12:14):
Yeah. So I don't know if they're just doing therapy or if she's on medication and I'm like, "It's not really my place to ask." So I'm like, "If she volunteers it, okay." I mean, she's in the mom's group with all the other mothers of only children. There's four of us, right? And we've all talked about it. And I was like, "You can have generalized anxiety. That is a thing that can happen. You're just anxious and whatever, and it's not tied to a specific event that caused you to have this or people with ADHD can also have anxiety, so it's the ADHD that's causing it. So it could be the depression can cause anxiety. There's a lot of things that cause it or you could just have it for no reason." So anyhow, I will come back to the Sunday thing because Sunday is part of the criminal activity that I mentioned earlier.

 

Eva (13:09):
Okay.

 

Kami (13:09):
All right. So girls get picked up, they're whisked off. Tuesday, dad took her to Sky Zone, which ironically, this girl, the anxiety girl, was there just randomly just happened to be there at the same time, coincidence. So they got to play. They're cool. They're all friends again. Everything's -

 

Eva (13:29):
Isn't it dark in there?

 

Kami (13:31):
I guess not. So that was Tuesday. Wednesday being yesterday is her actual birthday. So we go out to... Bless her heart. She wanted to go to Outback Steakhouse because she wants the Joey sirloin and broccoli. I was like, "Say less. Get in the car. Let's go." That's what she wanted. So we did all of that and that was great. So today, now, right now, she is at the Anxiety Girl's house for a play date because that mom had scheduled that, I guess, a while or... I don't know. Anyway, so she's like, "Yeah, so we're going to do a sleepover." I'm like, "Okay." So she has Anxiety Girl and Angel Girl and my kid. And now Angel Girl and Cordelia had already schemed with my mom to go to the children's museum for their haunted Halloween and breakfast with the witches on Saturday. So mom's like, "And they can stay at my house." Cool.

 

(14:41):
So the Deborah just doing her Deborah grandma thing, which is wonderful. So I'm trying to coordinate all of that, not realizing that this today, they wanted to have a sleepover at their house with all of them again. So I'm like, "Okay." So now we're coordinating who's picking up, who's dropping off, picking up Angel Girl from the daycare and getting on the list at the daycare. It's a lot of moving parts. So now the idea was she goes and does her playtime today and I go pick her up and bring her home. And then tomorrow morning, Anxiety Girl's mom is like, "Oh yeah, they were talking about going to Slick City because that Cordelia and Angel Girl and my mom made all of those plans. And of course they all talked about it. Now Anxiety Girl wants to go." So now I'm like, "Okay, so now we're coordinating who's going to pick up what kid and meet wherever." So since she will have both of them, Anxiety and Angel Girl, Mom will pick up Kordelia and then we'll meet at the Slick City.

 

(15:44):
If you had never done a Slick City, it's a really cool, it's like an indoor slide -

 

Eva (15:48):
Oh, slide place.

 

Kami (15:49):
Slide park. Right. It's super cool.

 

Eva (15:51):
Yeah. Okay.

 

Kami (15:53):
So then we do that tomorrow. Tomorrow night we have the haunted hayride at Eagle Creek Park, which we've planned two months ago. And then the sleepover at my mom's house. And then Saturday morning, first thing, she's picking me up and with the two girls and we're going to go do the Children's Museum and the Haunted Halloween and the Breakfast with the Witches and the whole thing. Yeah. So I have no brain. No brain at all.

 

Eva (16:28):
I don't have one either now.

 

Kami (16:31):
And our listeners have totally turned us off. Don't, don't hang, don't hang up.

 

Eva (16:37):
Maybe we'll just speed that whole thing up and make you talk faster until we get here.

 

Kami (16:43):
Please do.

 

Eva (16:44):
And then...

 

Kami (16:46):
Yes. And

 

Eva (16:47):
Here we are.

 

Kami (16:48):
It sounds about right. Okay. So -

 

Eva (16:51):
My girls get to go with their best friend's mom to the Tesla Frunk or treat. And I'm quite jealous that I cannot go.

 

Kami (17:02):
What is this?

 

Eva (17:03):
You know how Teslas have a frunk, not a trunk?

 

Kami (17:05):
No. Oh, I didn't... Yeah. Okay.

 

Eva (17:07):
Yeah. Well, all the people that work at Tesla get together at the Tesla factory and do this massive frunk or treat for the kids.

 

Kami (17:16):
That is the cutest thing.

 

Eva (17:17):
And then my kids get to go to that on Saturday.

 

Kami (17:19):
Oh my gosh, that's so cute.

 

Eva (17:20):
Isn't that cool?

 

Kami (17:22):
That is so cool. Yeah. They do that at the church right down here on the corner. It's this big mega church and then they have trunk or treat. So we do that and they always do it usually the Saturday before Halloween, even though Halloween's on a Saturday this year, they're doing it the weekend before. I was like, thank God.

 

Eva (17:41):
I grew up in Anoka, Minnesota, which is the Halloween capital of the world.

 

Kami (17:44):
Oh.

 

Eva (17:45):
And Halloween is like a whole thing up there. And everyone that I went to high school with is very upset because they moved the Halloween parade, which is huge, huge parade. They moved it to the weekend before Halloween, even though Halloween is a Saturday. Really? For a week I've been like, "Why would they do that?" The only thing I can think of is that all the other people who come for the parade were complaining about having to come all the way there. Maybe they couldn't get enough people to do the parade because if it was on Halloween, the kids wouldn't want to travel there because they come from all over the state to be in the parade.

 

Kami (18:25):
Interesting.

 

Eva (18:25):
That's my theory.

 

Kami (18:27):
Yeah. I mean, that kind of makes sense because if you want the actual Halloween experience and doing the door to door and the trick or treating and all of that.

 

Eva (18:36):
Yes. Also said best friend with the Tesla Frunk-or-treat family. Her birthday was a couple weeks ago, but she wants to have her birthday party on Halloween and have everyone come to her house for Halloween and go trick-or-treating in her neighborhood. I'm like, "This is too much conflict for my children. They cannot choose between our neighborhood and your neighborhood."

 

Kami (18:58):
So we are having the same situation because -

 

Eva (19:01):
You are.

 

Kami (19:01):
Yeah. Because anxiety girls, parents are like, "We're going to do a Halloween here at our house." But we always go up to... I don't know if you guys are familiar with the area in Indianapolis. My girlfriend lives up in Westfield, which is like, I don't know, 20 minute drive from my house, but it's up north and it's kind of out in the... It's just a really nice area. Anyways, so we always go to her house, but the friend's Halloween is from two to five. I'm like, "That's perfect. I'm going to drop her off at two o'clock. I'm going to come home, get myself ready because I'm in full on gypsy costume and being in gypsy this year. I'm super excited. And then I will pick her up and we'll go up to Westfield and that'll be that. But still, she'll have to do two Halloweens this year too.

 

Eva (19:45):
For the first time ever. Now we've been to Spirit Halloween twice. My younger daughter will not go in there because it's too scary, but my older daughter loves it. And we've been in there twice. And for the first time in my entire adult life, I thought to myself," I could wear a costume. Costumes will fit me now".

 

Kami (20:05):
Girl. Yeah.

 

Eva (20:08):
When until now could I have bought a costume at Spirit Halloween and had it fit?

 

Kami (20:14):
Right.

 

Eva (20:14):
Unless it was like grimace or something.

 

Kami (20:19):
Or it was one of those ones that has the boulder in it that blows it up like the dinosaur. Maybe you could have gotten one of those. I don't know.

 

Eva (20:27):
What's the monster's name from Monsters Inc?

 

Kami (20:30):
Sam Sully?

 

Eva (20:32):
No, the other one. The big one. I would not be the little one.

 

Kami (20:36):
No. Well, I don't remember their names. Sam? I don't know. Is that right? I think the little girl's name is Sam. Girl, I don't know.

 

Eva (20:44):
I don't remember.

 

Kami (20:45):
Kordelia, that was just one Kordelia wasn't into.

 

Eva (20:49):
The idea of getting a fat costume because I was fat was not really ever on my agenda.

 

Kami (20:54):
No, that's not on anybody's to-do list at all.

 

Eva (21:01):
We started going to a food therapist.

 

Kami (21:05):
Please say more.

 

Eva (21:08):
Well, I've been watching. We've talked about it a bunch. My daughter's overeating. She's getting bigger. Her belly is getting bigger. It just got to the point where I was like, "I need help. I can't keep trying to figure this out on my own. Is it a problem? Is she just growing? Is she actually hungry? I have no idea what to do here."

 

Kami (21:30):
Is there a medical issue underlying where her metabolism's just in the toilet?

 

Eva (21:37):
Probably, but I just needed someone neutral to help me untangle it. And so I asked my own therapist, does she know anybody? She went and asked around and she got this amazing, so nice, wonderful woman who has about 17 titles next to her name. So she went to school a lot.

 

Kami (21:57):
Nice.

 

Eva (21:58):
Not relevant, but so far I've gone twice and it's just us. It actually supposed to be both of us, me and my husband, but not my daughter because what I understand from two sessions is we are responsible for her environment. That means what is in the house? When is it on the table? What does she have access to? All of those things. The environment is our responsibility. How much she eats is her responsibility. It is not my place to say that's too much or that's not enough or I can only control the environment and that's all and I have to keep my mouth shut about everything else for at least a month.

 

Kami (22:40):
Okay.

 

Eva (22:41):
So far I'm doing it. And one thing that really stood out -

 

Kami (22:43):
Well, good for you because that would be fucking hard, let me tell you.

 

Eva (22:46):
In all this analysis, she asked me what does she do when she takes too much food? And I said, "Oh, that's easy. She doesn't usually finish it all." And she was like, "Aha, aha."

 

Kami (23:00):
Oh.

 

Eva (23:01):
That is different. It's different. She has an off switch. When you don't have an off switch and you just keep eating more and more and more and more and more and there's no off switch, that's not the same thing as I took two and then I went back in the kitchen and I took two more and I didn't finish them. So I've kind of hung on that, but let me tell you what, she does not let me off the hook. So she'll say, "Well, what is too much?" And I'll be like, "Well, I think four cups of milk in one sitting is probably too much." Well, why? Because it is... Well, why? So everything I say, she pushes me past it. And so there's a lot of really... I'm having a lot of cognitive dissonance at the moment, but I already feel better because I have help.

 

(23:54):
I have someone who's really smart helping me figure it out. And I don't know if she'll ever talk to my daughter directly because it's really for me.

 

Kami (24:04):
It is. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds to me like there's also a little layer of you're kind of re-parenting yourself too, and that's the hard part. Not, "Is four cups of milk too much? Who gives a shit?" It's you're also replaying your experience too, right? And you're reliving it and you're therapizing yourself as a kid trying to get her on track. So kudos to you for seriously hanging in there, girl, because that's no joke. That's rough. But you're going to do it and you're going to be great and she's going to be just fine.

 

Eva (24:52):
I just don't want her... Because she already started doing the thing I told you before where she yells, "I'm fat." Well, no, you're not. Well, maybe you are. Who cares?

 

Kami (25:04):
Right.

 

Eva (25:05):
I'm not saying you're fat. I'm saying you have to wear clothes that fit. It's not the same thing. Right. Okay. But then she would say I'm responsible for the environment. So what does that mean? That I have to make sure she has clothes that fit before she's putting on clothes that don't fit, and then there's a conflict where I'm like, "You can't wear that." Right?

 

Kami (25:23):
Well, are you churning her wardrobe?

 

Eva (25:29):
Do you understand how little free time I have?

 

Kami (25:34):
Probably not.

 

Eva (25:35):
I have not. I have not, nor have I. Here's the other big problem is that I delegated feeding them partly because of time, but also because I don't think about food anymore at all.

 

Kami (25:47):
Oh, I know. There's times where I was like, "I never fed my kid. Holy crap."

 

Eva (25:50):
I went to that incredibly difficult workout class this morning, or not this morning, last week. Before I left, I threw a couple egg bites in the microwave so I'd have some protein before class, and I forgot them there. And then at five o'clock in the evening, my husband came home and opened the microwave and he was like, "Hey, you didn't eat breakfast." I went, "Oh my gosh." I went to that class without any food in my stomach.

 

Kami (26:17):
On an empty stomach? Oh my gosh.

 

Eva (26:18):
Yeah. And I didn't even notice.

 

Kami (26:20):
Yeah.

 

Eva (26:21):
So of course I don't think about food. So I have to do something to fix the schedule, the structure, the planning, the environment, but I can't do it by myself. We have to do it together, and that's kind of where we are with it right now. Yeah.

 

Kami (26:36):
Well, you got to get rid of the stuff that doesn't fit her anymore.

 

Eva (26:39):
Yes. Thank you. I agree. And I will. I'll do it in the next week. I'll go through with the bin and pull it all.

 

Kami (26:46):
I don't know how she is, but Kordelia likes to have some control over that because it's her stuff. I mean, it's her things. Usually what I'll do is I'll pull out like, okay, because what's happening now is that she's continuing to wear leggings that are too small. So not only are they tight, but they're real short. So it's very obvious that they are too small for her because they... But she's like, "No, no, they're fine." I'm like, "Girl, they ain't fine and we don't shop at Goodwill. You'll be okay. We got you. What are you worried about that you're not going to have any clothes to wear? We're just going to go buy the exact same pair from Walmart and the size up and then you'll be comfortable. What?" And so I'm like -

 

Eva (27:31):
The other night when she forgot she needed poster board for something that was due the next morning and I had to go to Target, eight o'clock at night.

 

Kami (27:38):
Oh, kill me now.

 

Eva (27:39):
Which I was really unhappy about.

 

Kami (27:41):
Sounds like it. Oh, thanks.

 

Eva (27:42):
But that night, the 40% off all the active wear was ending, and so I blew through there and grabbed a whole bunch of stuff and the next size up. So that was kind of the silver lining of her forgetting that she needed a poster.

 

Kami (27:56):
Yeah. Well, so I will take all these things and I'll be like, "Okay, this is a good enough donate thing. It's too small for you. Can we donate all this stuff?" And then she'll be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. That looks good. Okay, great.

 

Eva (28:08):
The other thing is I have to save most of it if it's still good. If it's crappy, I'll get rid of it, but I have a younger daughter who will wear it a year from now.

 

Kami (28:18):
Exactly. So you got to put those in bins and store it, which that part would be rough, at least for me because I have -

 

Eva (28:25):
That's why it's overwhelming.

 

Kami (28:26):
Yes, because you're like, now you're trying to make good decisions and you're like, "Okay, is this an item worth keeping? Or this is going to take up space in my house and occupy my house for a year, year and a half." And then by the time she wants to wear it, maybe she won't like it because it has stars on it. She doesn't like stars anymore. You know what I'm saying?

 

Eva (28:47):
Yeah. Oh, I do.

 

Kami (28:50):
That's another layer to it. So I get procrastinating that task because that's a lot.

 

Eva (28:57):
All right. Okay. Tell me about this crime that you got. What happened?

 

Kami (29:02):
Okay. So we're going to rewind to this Sunday. So today's -

 

Eva (29:08):
Zoo day?

 

Kami (29:10):
No, the Sunday was the morning after the sleepover and the drama overnight. Sunday morning rolls around. I've got four girls trying to get them fed, trying to get them out of their jammies, into their regular clothes. It's all chaos. They're all over the place. And I've got the ADHD/autistic girl who's delightful, but she has a specific routine. She eats four items. I was like, "Well she eat scrambled eggs." No. Will she eat toast? No. So she eats the Go-Gurts that are in the tube. That's it. I'm like, "Okay." So we have those. I get her set up. Anyways, so it's chaos and it's craziness and it's noon pickup time. The anxiety girl's mom comes and gets her. It's around 11:45, 11:50. The autistic girl's mom comes and gets her. It's around noon. Still trying to get ahold of the angel girl's mom and dad, and they're trying to figure out...

 

(30:16):
They have one car, so they're trying to figure out who's going to come get her, right? They don't come till 1:30, which fine. At least there's one of them. I don't care how long she stays. She can move in. There's just one. It's fine. So he comes in, her dad comes in and he's like, "So what's going on next door?" I'm like, "What do you mean? Meanwhile, we haven't left the house." He's like, "Yeah, it's all taped off. There's two dozen cop cars right over here and there's crime scene tape everywhere." I'm like -

 

Eva (30:51):
Oh, no.

 

Kami (30:56):
Turns out that between noon and 12:20, two people a hundred feet from my house were stabbed to death.

 

Eva (31:14):
What?

 

Kami (31:16):
Apparently the adult son, so this is a couple, the mother is 75, the father is 80. He's the stepdad of the son who's late 30s, early 40s who did the murders. Apparently this guy was diagnosed with schizophrenia, has been off of his medication for months. He was convinced that they were poisoning him through the brand new HVAC system that they had installed.

 

Eva (31:50):
Is it this guy right here?

 

Kami (31:53):
Yep. That's the guy. Yep.

 

Eva (31:57):
Wow.

 

Kami (31:57):
So if you read that article, it talks about at noon, she texts her husband, his stepdad, and said, "Hey, you need to come home because this gentleman, things aren't going well and I need you to come home." So while I'm dealing with girls getting picked up and driving in and out and doing all the stuff, 500 feet away...

 

Eva (32:23):
No.

 

Kami (32:25):
Yeah. Yep. So he was arraigned today.

 

Eva (32:31):
So that's their house? Where's yours?

 

Kami (32:34):
It's about 500 feet away.

 

Eva (32:37):
To the left?

 

Kami (32:37):
To the east of that.

 

Eva (32:42):
I don't know my directions.

 

Kami (32:46):
I don't know. Yeah.

 

Eva (32:47):
Cute neighborhood, Kami.

 

Kami (32:48):
I know, right? So good.

 

Eva (32:52):
Sorry.

 

Kami (32:52):
Yeah. It was cuckoo bananas. Yeah. He was office meds, office rocker, and there's a... Oh God, they call it something here. It's the mobile intervention crisis unit or something had been called to that for his behavior previously. So he was at some point on the radar for severe mental illness. And so now everybody's up in arms about, "Well, how did this happen? And our crisis management is lacking and our mental health resources are lacking in the city of Indianapolis." And I'm like, "I don't think that's it, y'all." No. What happens is people with those severe types of mental illness, when they're on medication and they're stable, they think, "Oh, I don't need to take these medications anymore. I'm fine." And they go off of them. It happens all the time. So if I had to guess, and y'all, I'm just speculating and allegedly, allegedly, allegedly all this happened, right? But the cops found him in the house and apparently he was trying to take a shower or rinse, I don't know, whatever.

 

Eva (34:10):
Yeah, he was. That's what the article said.

 

Kami (34:11):
Yeah. So he was arrested without incident and off the streets. Yay.

 

Eva (34:21):
Hopefully forever.

 

Kami (34:23):
Yeah. Oh, he's not going anywhere. There's no way. Absolutely not. No. So that was the criminal situation. So not only have I been dealing with all this craziness with Cordelia and all the things happening, and this is fall break, so she doesn't have to go to school, thank God.

 

Eva (34:43):
Weirdly, okay. I talked to a really interesting doctor a couple weeks ago and he had incorporated GLP-1s and peptides into his cosmetic surgery practice in a really interesting way. He was very knowledgeable about all the peptides beyond the GLPs. So things like, I don't know if you've seen any of this in your feed, but there's a whole bunch of them. There's like a skincare one and there's ones for muscle repair.

 

Kami (35:11):
Yes. I've seen some of those that there's a whole bunch of different...

 

Eva (35:16):
Things you can inject basically.

 

Kami (35:17):
Yeah. Collagen stuff that helps... Yeah. I'm very interested in learning more about what would be good for what thing. And I know that there's stuff for... Oh God, I think I had a little notepad about it. Anyways, go ahead.

 

Eva (35:34):
Well, I asked him to come back and talk to us about what he knows. And then also, this is our perfect segue to our own website situation with Epix because it turned out that actually on the theme of criminals that my friend Michael is who owns Epix and way back when we started talking about this, I kind of explained that pretty much all the vendors are the middlemen and they're all getting the peptides and the GLPs from the same handful of sources. So you see all these websites, hims, hers, Roe, there's tons of them. And Epix is like that. It's a website where you can order whatever you decide that you want to do and get connected with a doctor if that's what you want. Okay. So the people who built his website were the criminals.

 

Kami (36:36):
God, that's right.

 

Eva (36:37):
It had nothing to do with the peptides or the medication vendor or the telehealth provider, and it was entirely related to whoever the contractor was that built him the original website. So while we were in this terrible transition between them and where it is now, he actually just took it over and built it himself this time. He is going to join us on an episode in the near future, like in the next couple of weeks.

 

Kami (37:04):
Oh good.

 

Eva (37:04):
And kind of tell us the whole story about what happened, but really it's more important that we know who our partner is for that. And so I said to him, "Why don't you just come on the show?" And he was like, "Yeah."

 

Kami (37:16):
Heck yeah. Oh, I'm excited. That's great.

 

Eva (37:18):
So we'll start to kind of explore that. So far I'm injecting what I've always taken, B12 and Tirzepatide. Now mine are separate. They were in the beginning too. My B12 was a different shot from my GLP. Then they got mixed together. Now they're not mixed together anymore. I also tried a Glo, what's called the Glowstack, which is supposed to be for skincare and skin health. And honestly, I was going through the laser treatments at the time, so whether it helped or not, I have no idea. But then also, did you know this is exactly how Botox, Dysport and all those injectables come to? They go to the office of your Botox injector in a little vial of powder and that powder gets reconstituted with sterile water and then they pull it in the syringe and stick it in your head. That's how all of this stuff is packaged and sent to medical practices, which I never knew before.

 

Kami (38:20):
I never realized that either. I just kind of thought it came mixed from the manufacturer, but I guess it kind of makes sense.

 

Eva (38:26):
Have you ever had an injector say, "Oh, I'm going to go mix. I'll be right back."

 

Kami (38:30):
No.

 

Eva (38:31):
Oh yeah. That's what they're doing.

 

Kami (38:33):
I think I've had Botox maybe a couple of times, like six years ago. That was back in the RealSelf days.

 

Eva (38:41):
I just went a week ago.

 

Kami (38:44):
Nice.

 

Eva (38:46):
I think I probably will have her put a little bit more in. She was very conservative, but she did this.

 

Kami (38:52):
Oh, well, your neck looks great.

 

Eva (38:54):
Used to be two lines and now there's no... I mean, it doesn't look great on camera, but it's definitely better. So yeah, everything's really coming out nice. I'm super happy with what I did.

 

Kami (39:06):
Yeah, it looks awesome.

 

Eva (39:08):
Thank you.

 

Kami (39:08):
So speaking of medication, that's my third story. Apparently there is a massive shortage on estrogen patches. You've heard about this?

 

Eva (39:19):
I have heard about this.

 

Kami (39:20):
Oh yeah. So my pharmacy is like, "Yeah, it's on back order." I'm like, "I'm sorry, it's what? It's on back order." I was like, "You guys are playing with my life right now. You're just rolling in ice, seriously." And at this point, I had refilled it and was waiting for it to come in. So it was like two or three weeks. And I was like, "Is it not in you? What gives here, people?" And they're like, "Yeah, you can call another pharmacy and see if it's available." So I called four other Walmarts and finally actually talked to an actual pharmacist and she's like, "Yeah, girl, I don't know what to tell you. It's not happening."

 

Eva (40:04):
Is this the same thing right here?

 

Kami (40:05):
Yes. Estradiol patches. Yep.

 

Eva (40:08):
Oh, well, I will ask him if it's in stock.

 

Kami (40:12):
Yeah. So I did finally find it at CVS, so I was able to get it refilled, but I went four weeks without it. On top of my ADHD medication, my Vyvanse also getting screwy because I had had a meeting with my psychiatrist and I'm like, "Hey, the estrogen and the birth control that I'm on is really helping tremendously with a lot of my ADHD symptoms. Huge, massive." I said, "So I don't think I need as much anymore, so bump me down." And she's like, "Okay." Well, she sent it over. She says she sent it. They said they never got it. We went back and forth for a while and then they refilled it and I went and picked it up and it was the wrong dosage. I'm like, "Oh my God." And on top of the fact that I have a deductible, a prescription deductible with this new insurance, so it's like $150.

 

(41:10):
So I'm like, "Okay, you guys are making me nuts." So finally they got the actual correct dosage and I got that filled and I picked it up yesterday. So I'm all back on track after having not been properly medicated for almost three weeks.

 

Eva (41:32):
Oh my gosh.

 

Kami (41:33):
Yeah.

 

Eva (41:33):
And you could tell?

 

Kami (41:34):
Oh yeah. I had a total meltdown in the hallway and it was over some spilled coffee. My fault. It wasn't like anybody else did it. I did it. It just put me right over the edge. And of course, Justin and Kordelia were at, I don't know, Trader Joe's or Costco or something, and they're coming home while I'm in the rage. And then Kordelia's screaming her face off and making all kinds of annoying sounds. And then I had to profusely apologize to them and cry. It was awful because my husband's like, "What is wrong with you?" I'm like, "I don't have any estrogen." Kordelia's patting me on the back and she's like, "It's okay, mommy. You'll get your meds". I'm done. It's fine. It's okay. So yeah, that was a whole trauma. So yes, I absolutely noticed the difference. Not right away, but when you hit that two to three week mark without any of it, you're feeling it.

 

Eva (42:41):
It's a really weird time for medication.

 

Kami (42:43):
Yeah.

 

Eva (42:44):
I'm stunned at how much I can get without a doctor now, and I can see why people are worried, but I also can see why people appreciate having access to things that are not dangerous.

 

Kami (42:58):
A friend of mine was, when I was talking to her about the guy over here, she's like, "Well, maybe he stopped taking his meds because he couldn't get them because they were too expensive." I'm like, "I just don't think psychiatric medication is something that you're going to have a hard time getting if you have a serious diagnosis." You know what I mean? I mean, maybe you have more insight than me, but I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, "If you have a schizophrenia diagnosis and you walk up to that pharmacy and they're like," Yeah, it's $1,000 for your medication, "I just don't think that that's how it goes. To me, it's like antibiotics. It just is something that you need it when you need it and you just get it if you're prescribed and you have the diagnosis.

 

Eva (43:49):
You would think so.

 

Kami (43:52):
And then somebody with that, even if he was on the state insurance, which isn't terrible here, he would still be able to get it next to nothing from my understanding.

 

Eva (44:03):
Well, yeah. You'll find out, I guess, as the story progresses.

 

Kami (44:08):
Well, I will update you as I know updates, but yeah, kookoo bananas.

 

Eva (44:13):
Okay. We got to go.

 

Kami (44:15):
All right. Thank you for listening.

 

Eva (44:19):
We'll see you in a week.

 

Kami (44:19):
And we will see you in a week. Appreciate you. Love and peace. Oh, bye Deborah.

 

Eva (44:26):
Bye, Maureen.

 

Kami (44:27):
Bye, Nana.

 

Eva (44:29):
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