Courtroom Wins, Evil Clowns, Pink Shoelaces

Eva (00:00):
And the manager was like, "Oh, I'm so sorry. Some people really like buying scary costumes for their children." I said, "I don't know any people like that. This is not appropriate." And she disagreed with me like three times in a row. And I said, "Okay, I can see that we're going to continue to disagree." Then I bought some $50 Bowdens sneakers that had never been worn. So I couldn't even be like, "I'm not buying anything in this evil store."

Kami (00:26):
Where they make little girls cry.

Eva (00:30):
I have to have the sneakers.

Kami (00:35):
So hi.

Eva (00:37):
Hi. Sorry I'm late.

Kami (00:40):
You should be. What the hell? Look at you doing life and being a mom and a kids and working and stuff. So rude.

Eva (00:47):
Yo, I like leaving the house. It's really nice to be around people and go places. I just have been way, way, way too at my desk.

Kami (00:55):
Yeah.

Eva (00:56):
It was great. It was a really good day.

Kami (01:00):
Something that I'm really excited to tell you.

Eva (01:02):
Yeah? You won your case?

Kami (01:04):
I'm the fucking winner. I won and I got everything I asked for. Suck it, you motherfucker. He hasn't paid me, but can I just read what the judge wrote on here? Do you guys understand that this is the biggest legal win of my life? You know what I mean? If I get a traffic ticket, I don't go to court. I just pay. I don't care. I've never set foot in a courtroom once in my life, 46 years old, never done it. I am a good girl. Okay? Yeah. So I'm just going to read the tidbits that are particularly amazing. Just these two sentences. Gamlim, that's me, met her burden of proof that by a preponderance of the evidence, AMR owes Gamlim $6,062.50 for commission on the sale of her parents' home. AMR and Robinson failed to meet their burden on the counterclaim. So I got the money.

(02:22):
And then it goes on to say, "The plaintiff's request for reasonable attorney's fees is granted. Plaintiff's counsel shall have a certain amount of time to file an affidavit of attorney's fees and the court finds in favor of the plaintiff against the defendant, AMR and Anthony Robinson."

Eva (02:43):
Wonderful.

Kami (02:43):
Suck it.

Eva (02:46):
Did you ever find out why she delayed?

Kami (02:49):
No. What I thought, and my attorneys thought that because there's another case that's identical to mine, her actual trial date today is what? Do you see what's going on back here? You see that?

Eva (03:03):
I see.

Kami (03:04):
Okay. Today is the 3rd. Her trial date is the 14th. I though for sure at this point she was waiting to hear that testimony to be able to say, "Hey, I've heard both sides of it and I can now feel comfortable ruling on Kami's case, whatever." Oh, are you disciplining your children right now and that's why you muted yourself?

Eva (03:34):
No, no, no.

Kami (03:34):
Oh, no. Okay.

Eva (03:36):
She yelled mom like 19 times-

Kami (03:37):
Girl, I heard that in the background. Meanwhile,

Eva (03:40):
It was-

Kami (03:40):
This tiny turd.

Eva (03:42):
She wanted to know on the Apple TV, which one is the bad one, restart or reset because one time she did the wrong one and all the TVs in the house went back to brand new basically. Oh my God. And it was horrible and we had to log into every single thing.

Kami (04:00):
Okay.

Eva (04:01):
So at least she asks.

Kami (04:02):
Well, that's lesson learned. Okay. Can you please excuse yourself?

Eva (04:08):
Mini me much.

Kami (04:08):
Run away, please, and close the door. Close the door, please. On your way out. Seriously. Thank you. Appreciate you. Close the door. Go away. Bye-bye then. Yeah. Okay. She's like a villain in a fucking movie. She's got to come back one more time. Yeah. So now starts the battle of actually getting paid.

Eva (04:38):
What happens to him now if he doesn't pay?

Kami (04:40):
He has 30 days to appeal from September 1st.

Eva (04:45):
Well, that would be stupid.

Kami (04:47):
But he would probably do it just knowing he's not going to get it granted just to delay, right? Because he doesn't have the money. So that was what their one concern is. And then it says, "We will advise if he files anything regarding an appeal. And in the meantime, even if he does seek an appeal, that does not automatically stay our ability to seek payment of the judgment and to comply with the small claims court directive on attorney's fees." So even if he files, which he can do, that doesn't mean that -

Eva (05:19):
He doesn't have to pay.

Kami (05:20):
It delays me paying. So he should, if he wants to appeal, fine, but he still has to pay me regardless. I know they have 15 days to file their affidavit of attorney's fees, which basically is going to show the paid receipts that yes, I did pay them, probably $4,000 or whatever. So for instance, I'm guessing if he called up, because he will pay the court directly. He will not pay me. He pays the court, they pay me. So if he calls the court and say, "Hey, I want to pay this off," we wouldn't have a total yet because my attorneys haven't filed. So once that's filed, then we'll know for sure the exact dollar amount to the penny of what he has to pay. The only thing it didn't specifically say, even though I requested interest, it didn't say that interest was granted. But it's only like 8% over annual interest rate.

(06:18):
And for $6,000, I think that's like 400 bucks. I don't care when I'm supposed to be getting close to probably around 10 or 11,000, don't care about $400. We have this weight loss podcast cool, but I just lost 40 pounds. Seriously, it was like.

Eva (06:43):
Yeah.

Kami (06:45):
Yep. So just leading with my big win.

Eva (06:50):
Good job. Have you lost any weight?

Kami (06:53):
I lost a pound.

Eva (06:55):
41 pounds,

Kami (06:57):
Physical pounds, but 200 pounds of emotional weight, which you know counts for something.

Eva (07:04):
It does. So yeah. You have an update on your neighbor too?

Kami (07:10):
Okay. So I last left off with we don't know where the cat is and is she even alive? Whatever. So the update here is that the ex-wife went to the house, procured the cat and is now in possession of the cat and she's now in a safe, happy, loving home. Don't know what's going on with the neighbor that actually lives there. So haven't heard anything else.

Eva (07:37):
But he's not back home or anything?

Kami (07:39):
No, it's going to be -

Eva (07:41):
He's not coming home.

Kami (07:42):
No, not with the fact that he's got one foot in the grave and three broken ribs. He's going nowhere fast. So even if he has been released from the hospital, he's going to have to be in a rehab facility for, could be months. So who knows what's going to go on with that house, but as long as the cat's out of it, that was what I was worried about the most. So anyways, yeah.

Eva (08:08):
All right. Good show.

Kami (08:10):
Okay. The end. Sorry, we're done. The end. No, just kidding. We'll keep going. How are you doing? Can we talk about you?

Eva (08:24):
Sure.

Kami (08:24):
Even though you're all over the place and everything?

Eva (08:28):
My face is really coming along. I'm very, very happy with how it looks.

Kami (08:34):
Yeah, does look good.

Eva (08:36):
Yeah. It's very numb still down here, but it's so much tighter. And according to both of the people who hold the lasers in their hands, it's going to keep getting better and better for a couple months.

Kami (08:49):
Oh, really?

Eva (08:50):
Yes. As your collagen comes back and they've been saying that for years. We'll see. We will see. And it took me a minute to figure out what to get the doctor who did this wonderful treatment for me, and I finally landed on these gorgeous sneakers. And if you ever have worked in a medical office, they can't really wear much other than scrubs, so they end up wearing really cool sneakers and their sneaker collection is a thing.

Kami (09:23):
Oh yeah, I'm sure it is.

Eva (09:24):
And so in this doctor's office, everything is hot pink. It's like part of the brand. And so I found these really high end sneakers, P448s. I wear them myself. They're my favorite. I have them in leopard. I have them in gold. They're just cool. And they had a pair that had a hot pink sole and hot pink laces. And then they were all white except the back. The heel was like silver glitter. And I just decided these are perfect. And I got her shoe size from the staff and I did this whole thing where I snuck around to get it. And I ordered the shoes and they came in and the laces are not hot pink. They're like this boring gray. They're supposed to be the same color

Kami (10:07):
Did you have to order those separately or something?

Eva (10:10):
No. In the picture, I went back on Nordstrom and looked at the picture and the laces are pink. So now I have this open loop with these shoes. Where'd they go?

Kami (10:19):
I was like, yeah have them all see.

Eva (10:23):
I got the shoes right here. Super fun, right?

Kami (10:32):
Yeah. No.

Eva (10:36):
They're still cool and I would still wear them, but that wasn't the point. The point was -

Kami (10:40):
No, you got to take those back.

Eva (10:42):
I know. And They're going to start over.

Kami (10:46):
Well, or they just have to send you the right accessories or something.

Eva (10:51):
Yeah. And there was a review on there that said, "I thought the laces were going to be pink and I never saw the review." Or I saw it and I was like, "Oh, that won't happen to me."

Kami (11:02):
Or she fucked her order up or something like that.

Eva (11:04):
Yeah. What are the chances that they're not really pink? Well, I found out.

Kami (11:10):
Yeah.

Eva (11:10):
So there's that. And the doctor's going overseas for a while. She should be leaving today. So I have a little bit of time to figure it out. I'm sure she's not going to fly to Greece thinking that I didn't say thank you. I'm going to get to it.

Kami (11:27):
She'll probably be fine.

Eva (11:30):
I'm sure she'll be fine.

Kami (11:32):
She's not like, "Oh, I did this thing for free and now nobody gave me a gift." She's going to be okay. No. Going to Greece.

Eva (11:43):
I had an amazing day today and part of it was because I work with somebody on my financial, both the business and personal finance. She is a CFP, but she's also like my fractional CFO basically. And so before I had her, her name's Whitney and she's just an absolute rockstar. I had the bookkeepers over here and I had the CPA that I've had since I was 22 years old who doesn't care about me at all. So in the old world, I had those people and those people and then whatever I could figure out on my own, which is a lot, but I had reached the point where this was getting really stressful. And then I got an unbelievable tax bill, I think two years ago. So unbelievable that no one I know would have enough money. Very few.

Kami (12:39):
Well, and it's like, okay, I made $20,000. How do I owe 60? Is it like that?

Eva (12:45):
It was kind of like that. Yeah.

Kami (12:48):
Wonderful.

Eva (12:49):
I mean, you're not far off. When this happened, I said, "Okay, fool me once. Shame on me. This is never happening again. I'm fixing this for good. I'm not going to allow this situation to continue. This is the life of an entrepreneur. This is what you do." And so I moved through it and I started trying to figure out what am I going to do? And you talked to all the people you know. And then someone sent me like, "This girl wants to work in podcasting and I think you might get along." So I went out for coffee. I can't remember that girl's name now at all, but she knew Whitney and she said, "I just met this amazing financial person and she only works with female med spa owners." And I said, "Oh my gosh, I need to know her. I could probably refer her a ton of business, right?

Kami (13:37):
Yeah, totally.

Eva (13:38):
I got on the phone with her and she thought she was talking to me about being on a podcast, not that I was potentially -

Kami (13:44):
Like you were going to want to hire her for some stuff. Yeah.

Eva (13:47):
And after half an hour, I said," I need you. What do I need to do? Can you help me? "And so she took everything over. We moved from the old CPAs and the old bookkeepers. Everything's under Whitney's roof and she has a plan. She knows what she's doing. She knows from basically that moment, she made sure that I got paid first, which I was not doing. I was like," What's left? I'll transfer some money and next week I'll transfer some more if I need it. And next week I'll -

Kami (14:22):
You're just moving all the shit around.

Eva (14:24):
Yeah. So if you look at that period of time, it's just like this is complete randomness like," Oh, I need to go to the grocery store and do we have any money?

Kami (14:35):
Not how are you supposed to do it?

Eva (14:37):
It's not.

Kami (14:38):
It's not the best way. Yeah.

Eva (14:40):
So since then, everything's really well organized and planned out and there's a budget and there's resources and people because she has a whole team. And so we talked through where are we going and what are we doing? And it's transformative. It truly is the best thing that I've done since I started this was bring her in. So today she had an event for all of our customers to get together and meet each other and it was awesome.

Kami (15:08):
Neat.

Eva (15:09):
And one of her other customers is someone I actually have known for like 10 years.

Kami (15:15):
Oh, really?

Eva (15:15):
Yes. And she's a trauma therapist. So Whitney's got all these med spas and then people that are sort of adjacent like me. And then she's got a little subset of people that were therapists. So before she said she only worked with female med spa owners, she said she only helped female owned businesses. So she had some kind of come from these sort of female women's business events. And so that person, Kat, is a trauma therapist and she told me the most incredible story. She said, "Ewa, do you remember when you came over to my house? You told me the most impactful thing that anyone has ever said to me." And I'm like, "What the heck?"

Kami (15:59):
Whoa, what?

Eva (16:01):
What did I do?

Kami (16:03):
Oh God.

Eva (16:04):
I don't even remember coming to your house, first of all. And then I though, oh, I bet it was because she said right before we moved to Costa Rica. So they took a year off and they moved to Costa Rica for, I can't remember why, but whatever. And her girls were really little. She has two girls. And so her younger one is nine and my oldest one is nine. So we both had a baby that was the same age, but she's got a 12 year old.

Kami (16:29):
Oh, okay.

Eva (16:30):
So I think it was sort of like, we're never going to get a chance to do this again. We're going to go live almost off the grid for a year.

Kami (16:38):
Heck yeah. Do it.

Eva (16:39):
Yep. They did that. And so she was giving away all kinds of stuff and she gave away a bunch of Christmas decorations. And so I ran over to her house to pick up all this Christmas stuff. And she told me that that day I sat in her living room and that she'd written a book and she had just done a TED Talk. So she was working very hard on attaining all these really big goals, like building a personal brand, stuff that I've seen lots of people do. I'm not into it myself. I'd rather just like -

Kami (17:12):
It's such an uphill battle.

Eva (17:14):
I'd rather just talk to you.

Kami (17:15):
I'm exhausting thinking about it for real.

Eva (17:18):
I don't need a personal back.

Kami (17:18):
But there's a lot of people that are crazy driven and they've got all the energy and the brain power, knock yourself out.

Eva (17:25):
So she had finished the TED Talk and she was super depressed and she didn't know why. And I did. I knew why.

Kami (17:34):
And she's a trauma therapist?

Eva (17:35):
Now she is. She hadn't gone back to school yet. So she was trying to change over from what she had been in her first career into what she was going to be next. So she was doing a lot of different stuff. She was super, super sad because the TED Talk was over and she felt really bad and she couldn't figure out why she felt so bad. And I said to her, oh, this is the thing that changed her life by the way. I said, "It's just post-performance blues." And for whatever reason, it unlocked a thing in her head. After that, she went down a rabbit hole and started researching it. And so for the last nine years, she's been studying it and started teaching about it and speaking about it. And it became the whole thing that she did after that.

Kami (18:30):
Eva, that is so. I don't even know what to say. That is incredibly profound.

Eva (18:38):
What I said back to her was, this is what's so great about being FD, 50, all of us. I mean, I just love it. The only reason I knew what it was, was because it had happened to me and it was the first darkest season of my own life. It happened to me when I was a junior in college. And I spent months in a very deep depression after a huge, huge performance that I had done myself as a musician. And so I had to figure out what it was and understand it and what caused it. And on that day that I was talking to her, it was just an offhand comment. But today what I said was, "I am so grateful that all that season of pain that I had allowed me to say that to you on a day that you needed it and changed your life."

Kami (19:38):
And then how many other people's lives have she impacted since then just because you just belched out a random thought from. You know what I mean? I just love that. I needed to hear that. There's so much crap going on right now. Man.

Eva (19:56):
You might feel it a little bit now that your case is over because you were maybe a little, victory, but also a little bit of a valley.

Kami (20:06):
So I can relate to that in the sense of the post-performance. I mean, I don't think I've ever truly experienced that, but having been a musician and done performance and been in plays and choirs and all that, I get how that can happen, but I've never really had it happen to me. So I'm like, "Oh yeah, that totally makes sense to me." I'm not like, "Why would you feel like that?" You know what I'm saying? So yeah, that's definitely a thing.

Eva (20:41):
I found later in my 40s, especially when I was working at a job where people expected me to present a lot at meetings and conferences, and it was a whole thing. And it gave me so much anxiety because I didn't really want to do it. And I felt like I was being forced to do something that. Also, I wanted to be good at my job and I wanted to make people happy at work. And when I stopped working there, the first thing I said is, "I'm never speaking again. I'm done." And part of it was because I knew how sad it made me to.

Kami (21:25):
Yeah. So you're anticipating the depression that's coming.

Eva (21:29):
Yes.

Kami (21:29):
Yeah. So you're like, "I know this is going to make me feel like shit afterwards, so now I'm going to get revved up with anxiety about it."

Eva (21:35):
For months.

Kami (21:36):
Yeah. Oh, honey, that's the worst.

Eva (21:38):
And it's funnier now because I talk all the time on podcasts. I don't think twice about it, but if I had to get back up and be on a stage, on a podium for 15 minutes or 45 minutes at one meeting with 30 people in the room, it would ruin me. And it's so freeing to just say, "I don't do that anymore. You want to hear what I have to say, listen to my show."

Kami (22:05):
Right. Well, you found the platform that works for you.

Eva (22:09):
Yes.

Kami (22:10):
And that's amazing.

Eva (22:12):
Yeah.

Kami (22:15):
I'm so proud of you, babe.

Eva (22:16):
I know what the next one is, and it's sort of the culmination of all of it, and it's called I Feel Like I Already Know You. Did I tell you that?

Kami (22:23):
No, I haven't heard about this.

Eva (22:24):
Yeah. Well, I should just start. I haven't started. I think I wrote one, but the plan is it'll be a book at some point called I Feel Like I Already Know You, and it'll just be this collection of all these weird marketing tactics that I have gathered over the years. If you work in aesthetics, you'll be able to. See, I'm saying it, so now it has to be real.

Kami (22:47):
Oh yeah, you're putting it out there, girl. Do it.

Eva (22:48):
Be like, "I need a tactic for getting people to come to an event and I'll just put the collection together in a section about events. And then there will be one about podcasts. There'll be one about YouTube, whatever." So it'll be cohesive, but it'll also have bite size pieces in it about solving problems in marketing.

Kami (23:10):
I like that. I like that a lot. Yeah. I think there's definitely some. I don't know what the right word is, but there's a way to get people on board that's not sleazy. Yeah. And it's an art form. You're not truly manipulating people to buy into what you're selling or make the purchase or whatever, but you're genuinely saying, "Hey, this will help you. Here's why." I think it's really smart.

Eva (23:49):
Well, and I tried it and here's what happened and here's the data and here's the practice where I did it and why I did it for them and I didn't do it for them because not everything works in every market for every audience.

Kami (24:01):
No, you're right.

Eva (24:04):
If nobody reads it, who cares? I kind of don't care.

Kami (24:09):
Right. Well, that's like the mindset that you have to be because if you build it up too much in your mind, like, "I'm going to write this book and I'm going to be a New York Times bestseller," and then you're not, then now you're digging your own grave because you're like, "Well, I'm done, so I'm going to dig my own grave and throw myself in it."

Eva (24:28):
The journey to the thing has to be the value, not the thing itself.

Kami (24:31):
Yes, 100%. Yeah. Girl, we got deep real quick.

Eva (24:37):
Yeah, we did. Thought we were done after the cat.

Kami (24:45):
We're done.

Eva (24:49):
Another bright spot from today was there's this beautiful little clothing boutique right across from where the event was, down in Wimberley, which is super quaint and charming. I went in there and I tried on some stuff. It all looked awesome. The ladies in the store were about our age and all the brands in the store were brands that I love and I just enjoyed it so much. I didn't feel any anxiety about trying on clothes. I didn't feel the need to tell them my story that I lost a hundred pounds and I just tried on some clothes and I bought a shirt.

Kami (25:23):
Just like a regular person.

Eva (25:25):
A regular person.

Kami (25:26):
Good job.

Eva (25:27):
Bought a really nice white button down shirt.

Kami (25:30):
I love it. That's really great. We should get together and go shopping, I think.

Eva (25:35):
Yeah, you should come down here.

Kami (25:38):
Probably not now though, because it's like a hundred degrees outside in Indianapolis.

Eva (25:43):
Here too.

Kami (25:43):
Fucking grody out there.

Eva (25:46):
Same here.

Kami (25:47):
Yeah. And so Kordelia and Justin are probably going to go to the pool. They're like, "Do you want to go with us?" I'm like, "It's almost too hot and gross to go to the pool, but it's only going to be open for a couple more days. After Monday, they'll close it."

Eva (26:02):
Well, the problem here is the water gets too hot if the pool isn't cooled down.

Kami (26:07):
No.

Eva (26:08):
And a lot of the pools -

Kami (26:08):
That is not a thing.

Eva (26:09):
It is a thing. They don't have a cooling system. So you'll get to August and nobody goes to the pool anymore because the water's too warm unless it's a really nice pool that has a way of cooling it back down.

Kami (26:23):
Or if it's deeper maybe?

Eva (26:25):
Well, yeah, the natural fed, there's a bunch of naturally fed pools. We're famous for them. Barton Springs, Deep Eddy. There's a bunch of them around town that actually get their water source from underground.

Kami (26:38):
I did that cooling a pool was even a thing. I don't even think they do that in Florida.

Eva (26:43):
Absolutely necessary. They must.

Kami (26:47):
Okay. We got to research that. Okay. Anybody that's from Florida, rabbit hole is coming. If anybody's listening that is from Florida, please message us and let us know if cooling your pool down is a thing there. I have never heard of this ever. I just thought, I was like, oh, well. And maybe it's because you don't cool down at night, like you're just hot twenty four seven, maybe two o'clock in the morning, it's still 95 degrees out. Right. So maybe -

Eva (27:18):
What do

Kami (27:19):
They do in Arizona? They've got to cool them in Arizona.

(27:24):
You just blew my mind. Christ. Okay. Arizona peeps, Florida peeps. You guys need to let us know.

Eva (27:32):
Yeah. About to text my cousin and ask her.

Kami (27:37):
I do. I have some. Well, my in-laws live in Tucson. I could be like, "Do you have a cooling system for your pool?" They'd be like, "I don't know. We'll find out."

Eva (27:44):
You know how in Florida they always have that little glass enclosure over the pools? I have to wonder if that's why.

Kami (27:50):
Well, it's usually a screen enclosure and it's really more for -

Eva (27:54):
Sun.

Kami (27:56):
For debris getting in your pool because there's all the hurricanes and the. You what I mean? So it's like a little dome or whatever goes over your pool and keeps out the debris. And it does shade it a little bit, but it's not. Maybe it keeps out animals or something, but like.

Eva (28:17):
I have one kid story for you.

Kami (28:19):
Oh, shoot.

Eva (28:21):
And I got to take the kids somewhere.

Kami (28:23):
Okay.

Eva (28:24):
Okay. So Ellie and I were at Kid to Kid. Do you have that? Or Once Upon a Child?

Kami (28:31):
Oh, I have Once Upon a Child, yes.

Eva (28:33):
Yeah. Same

Kami (28:33):
Yeah. Okay.

Eva (28:35):
And they had the Halloween costumes out already. So she was flipping through the Halloween costumes, and they had a legit Stephen King clown, it clown with the scary mask at Kid to Kid. And she freaked out. She's so scared of it. She started crying. I don't usually talk to people working in retail in any kind of way other than absolute kindness because it's so hard.

Kami (29:05):
Oh yeah. Yeah. If you want to learn the true, I don't know, the authentic human experience, work retail or food service.

Eva (29:15):
Yes. I've done both.

Kami (29:16):
Yeah. Same.

Eva (29:18):
So I'm always very kind, but I took this costume with the it scary mask up to the front and I said, "This does not belong here." And the manager was like, "Oh, I'm so sorry. Some people really like buying scary costumes for their children." I said, "I don't know any people like that. This is not appropriate." And she disagreed with me like three times in a row and I said, "Okay, I can see that we're going to continue to disagree." Then I bought some $50 Bowdoin sneakers that had never been worn, so I couldn't even be like, "I'm not buying anything in this evil store."

Kami (29:55):
Where they make little girls cry.

Eva (30:00):
I have to have the sneakers.

Kami (30:01):
Right. I'm mad at you, but I ain't that mad. I don't get the sneakers and I'm going to go.

Eva (30:06):
I'm buying these and then I'm never coming back.

Kami (30:11):
Oh my God.

Eva (30:12):
But okay, since then, this was two weeks ago already. She will not go to the bathroom by herself again because the clown is in the shower.

Kami (30:22):
Where did she see all of this? Because if Kordelia saw that, she wouldn't even know what it was.

Eva (30:27):
Well, she didn't know what it was. She just knew that it was really, really scary and evil.

Kami (30:32):
She just inherently was like, "That is wrong."

Eva (30:35):
Yeah. She's super tenderhearted.

Kami (30:38):
Oh, of course. Poor baby.

Eva (30:39):
And I've said that to her enough now that when she's crying, she'll say, "I'm your tender heart."

Kami (30:46):
Oh my God.

Eva (30:54):
Yeah.

Kami (30:54):
Bless her. Oh, baby.

Eva (30:57):
So yeah, right before we got on the show today, she said, she goes, "Because this is a signal at school for I have to pee." She crosses two fingers. It's like, "I got to go potty."

Kami (31:09):
Oh my God.

Eva (31:11):
She comes in here -

Kami (31:12):
I'm learning so much today. I've never heard of this either.

Eva (31:15):
Yeah. She comes in here and she goes, "You need me to go to the bathroom with you in our own house? Okay."

Kami (31:26):
Oh my God. Can you just keep the shower curtain open so she's like.

Eva (31:34):
Yeah, I could. I don't like to see the mess. I like to keep it closed.

Kami (31:41):
Well, that is fair.

Eva (31:43):
I could maybe I'll compromise and I don't know.

Kami (31:47):
You should ask her. If we open it, will you go potty by yourself? Well, okay. I'll try it. Oh, that's funny. Oh my God. Sweet. Oh, I definitely cannot one up that story, but Kordelia did say something really cute the other day. So we have cicadas here, like nobody's business, right? And apparently she found a dead one and she was going to bring it in the house. And Justin was like, "I don't really think mommy's going to appreciate that." And I'm like, "Don't be bringing gigantic dead bugs into my house. Absolutely not.My house is gross enough. We don't even make it grosser." So then she says, "There's just something about cicadas that called to me." What? There's something about cicadas that call to you? I don't even know what that means.

Eva (32:47):
She's going to be an entomologist.

Kami (32:50):
Which, fine. You know what? You want to go, but -

Eva (32:53):
Study bugs.

Kami (32:54):
Fine. Do it. It's a thing. Not in here. Go to the university. Go into the wild where you can go and search for all the bugs that you want. More power to you, girl. Do not bring one in this house.

Eva (33:09):
I mean, some people just are really drawn to certain animals or species. I was just watching the Lizard King documentary on HBO about these guys in the 70s and 80s that were smuggling exotic reptiles and snakes into the United States. They basically built this whole black market. I just watch it in the background when I'm getting ready or whatever, because I can't think. You don't have to really see what's on the screen to get it. One of the guys on there was like, ever since he was a little kid, he was just obsessed with snakes, collecting snakes, finding snakes, going overseas and catching rare snakes and then -

Kami (33:52):
Oh yeah. She's really into snakes and reptiles too. And her favorite YouTube channel is Snake Discovery, which is this adorable little teeny, tiny little blonde chick from, I don't know, North Dakota or South Dakota, somewhere. And they have a reptile sanctuary and they get -

Eva (34:12):
Has she found the one where the guy stings himself with all the scary bugs to see how bad it's going to be?

Kami (34:19):
Oh, she has seen that, yes. She usually watched. Her and Justin will watch that one. But this lady, she's cute as a button, first of all. And so you would think that she would be like, "I'm just going to have a baking show where I just bake all the homeless kids cupcakes all day." That's what she looks like. And then she's handling these snakes and lizards and all kinds of wild, crazy bugs, stuff that you would be. You would walk by that and be like, "Well, that's a leaf." Well, no, actually that's an ultra rare so-and-so mantis thing that. And then she can immediately tell the difference between the males and the females and then she talks. She is phenomenal. So that's one of her favorites. But yeah, I was like, "Well, if you want to be..."

Eva (35:09):
What's it called? The snakey?

Kami (35:10):
Snake discovery.

Eva (35:11):
Snake discovery.

Kami (35:13):
Yeah. She's so cute. And she's like, "Then we got this one snake." And then she talks about how she breeds these different snakes together to get certain color patterns and what's more rare than others. And this is a lavender, anacondas. She sells the things and I'm like, "What is she even saying? It's not even English, but she's into it." And then now Kordelia is saying, "Well this," and then she's trying to educate me on what it is that the snakes that are being bred and what happens to them and it's great. I'm like, "Okay, you want to be an entomologist or hematologist? Let's do that. It's fine."

Eva (35:51):
Make a really good living on the black market.

Kami (35:53):
Apparently. I'm going to just go ahead and figure out how to start laundering money.

Eva (36:01):
Well, and actually, I mean, you might have a criminal mind because these snake guys actually started smuggling drugs in the boxes under the snakes because they could make so much more money smuggling drugs.

Kami (36:13):
So they're smuggling illegal drugs to fund their smuggling of illegal animals operation?

Eva (36:20):
No, they just were just parallel crimes. Yeah.

Kami (36:27):
That's really great.

Eva (36:28):
They did. I mean, some of the drug king pins, these guys in Miami to show off, they would want exotic animals on their property. And so where I stopped this morning, they were trying to smuggle a Komodo dragon into the United States. I was like -

Kami (36:43):
My Lord. I'm going to look something up real quick. There was. Where the fuck is my mouse? I think there was a lion that got loose in Indiana. Yeah, it was a lioness and a cub. Central Indiana, which is right where I live, called off an extensive search for reported loose lioness after finding no physical proof of the sightings. Oh, okay. See now I can't be believing those bastards in my work because they're like, "Yeah." Okay. So there was a bunch of reports of it. And so it talks about Madison County and Hancock County. If you're from here, you know where that is. But I was like, "Did they escape from the zoo?" That's what I immediately thought. I never would be like, "Well, somebody had these exotic animals and -

Eva (37:32):
Trying to keep them as pets.

Kami (37:33):
Yes.

Eva (37:35):
But remember when the Tiger King was the whole thing couple years ago?

Kami (37:39):
Oh my God. I soaked every minute of that up. Let me tell you, I am not afraid to admit it. I was like this idiot. This idiot. I was obsessed.

Eva (37:52):
Yeah. I mean, we could go on and on, but did you watch The Death of the Pastor's Wife? You didn't?

Kami (38:01):
No.

Eva (38:01):
Oh my gosh.

Kami (38:02):
I think I saw that when I was scrolling through, something came up. I didn't really look at it.

Eva (38:09):
Yeah. Okay. Go watch it and report back.

Kami (38:12):
Death of the Pastor's Wife. Okay. Wow. All right. Yeah, I'll check it out. I need another bingey documentary anyways.

Eva (38:23):
It's only three, but then it'll open a whole, they barely scratched the surface according to the True Crime podcast universe.

Kami (38:33):
Oh.

Eva (38:34):
So yeah, really good. Highly recommend. 10 out of 10.

Kami (38:40):
Good.

Eva (38:42):
Well, good talk.

Kami (38:45):
Yeah, it was good.

Eva (38:48):
Proud of you. You stuck through that whole thing.

Kami (38:53):
I did. My mom, she's so sweet. She's so nice. She's like, "Kami, you really stuck through this." She was proud and a little bit surprised. I was like, "Have you met me?" So it was just really funny that I was like, "Well, yeah, I told you I wasn't going to give it up."

Eva (39:15):
Your sense of justice or the need for justice just overpowered your ADD for long enough that you could have done.

Kami (39:21):
Well, and that's the thing. What so funny is that there is a direct correlation between people who are ADHD and injustice, there's a term for it and I can't remember, but it's like ADHD people have a really strong drive for justice and what's right in their eyes, and that kind of came through. So as much as ADHD makes me crazy, there's parts of it that are really helpful and that was one of them.

Eva (39:54):
Yep. I'm glad you did it.

Kami (39:55):
Yeah, thank you.

Eva (39:56):
I hope you get paid.

Kami (39:57):
I hope so too. Yeah, I think if I do, we got to do something. Maybe we do, I don't know, like a giveaway or. I don't know. Can we do that? I don't even know. We'll talk about it. We'll figure out something. So when I actually get the money, I'm going to plunk a little bit in to do some kind of fun. I don't know. Let's noodle it around. If anybody has suggestions about what a cool giveaway spa package.

Eva (40:22):
How could we pay it forward?

Kami (40:24):
Right. Let's do that.

Eva (40:27):
Yeah,

Kami (40:28):
For sure.

Eva (40:29):
I'm in.

Kami (40:30):
Yeah.

Eva (40:31):
Bye, Maureen.

Kami (40:32):
Bye, Deborah. Bye, Nana.

Eva (40:37):
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