Do I look better yet?
Three weeks after her Halo resurfacing, Eva decides to take the opportunity to have a https://www.drjenniferwalden.com/procedures/lasers/junera-laser-skin-tightening-contouring/ laser treatment, a new technology that treats the skin from within to...
Three weeks after her Halo resurfacing, Eva decides to take the opportunity to have a Junera laser treatment, a new technology that treats the skin from within to tighten the face and neck from the inside.
On the morning before heading to Dr. Jennifer Walden’s office in Austin, she took her before photos seriously: the 6:43 AM bathroom pictures, the long-stoplight car selfie video, the in-office clinical photos.
Then two pills, a grid drawn on her face, almost falling while putting on socks, nitrous held by Jenny (“Feels like high school, huh?”), and a new perspective on what a great surgeon looks like and what it means to be a patient. Swelling peaks at 72 hours, and by day 10 the befores and afters look glorious. The great reveal comes next week.
Kami has her own procedure brewing. After 14 years of sleep apnea, an insurance company demanding a sleep study from a clinic on the other side of the country, and a scope that couldn’t even get up one nostril — 80% closed on one side, 90% on the other — scheduled for in Indianapolis booked her for turbinate reduction and balloon sinuplasty, with a real shot at ditching the CPAP for good.
Questions answered by this episode
- What is the Junera laser and how does it work?
- Does Junera laser skin tightening hurt?
- What kind of sedation is used for minimally invasive laser procedures?
- How long does swelling last after a Junera treatment?
- Can you tighten loose neck skin after major weight loss without a facelift?
- What is balloon sinuplasty?
- What are turbinates and why do they stay swollen?
- Does losing weight cure sleep apnea?
- Can fixing a blocked nose get you off a CPAP machine?
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Co-hosts: Eva Sheie & Kami Gamlem
Assistant Producer: Mary Ellen Clarkson
Engineering: Victoria Cheng
Theme music: Old Grump, Smartface
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Kami (00:00):
I want you to finish your story, but that is triggering me to talk to you about something else that we haven't talked about yet, so keep going.
Eva (00:06):
Okay. Do you need me to write it down because you have perimenopause?
Kami (00:09):
No. I'm on a patch now. I just changed it. I'm okay. How are you doing, Madame?
Eva (00:20):
I'm tired right now.
Kami (00:21):
Yeah, you look -
Eva (00:23):
I've been fine. I get up in the morning and I feel totally normal, and then I kind of go downhill all day. And so let me just start by saying non-invasive is not a thing. Non-invasive is non-accurate. It is non-true.
Kami (00:44):
Non-invasive is like a facial.
Eva (00:47):
Yes.
Kami (00:48):
Maybe some injectables, but other than that.
Eva (00:51):
There's some lasers that I would say are non-invasive. You can go have a little color removed from your skin and go write about your life without getting tired, but this was not that.
Kami (01:02):
Well, it's a lot that you've put your body through.
Eva (01:06):
It was more than I expected it to be.
Kami (01:09):
Okay.
Eva (01:09):
And so let me just start by saying it is going to be amazing.
Kami (01:13):
I
Eva (01:14):
I already know. Yeah. And I will tell you why I know.
Kami (01:17):
Okay. Tell me.
Eva (01:18):
But I also want to kind of take you through that morning because. Well, okay, so I got up, I had to be over there at 7:30 to get ready. And so this plastic surgeon, Dr. Walden, is pretty famous. A lot of people know who she is. She's been around. She's a couple years older than me, so she's had a very good, very impressive career. And she's known for being an excellent, absolutely excellent surgeon. And so the way this came about was my friend Jenny, who's a laser specialist who's amazing, who did my halo three weeks ago. When I was over there getting the halo, it was kind of like I was walking by and Dr. Walden said, "I need a patient for a demo on August 10th. Will you do she do it?"
Kami (02:08):
You're like, "Yeah, absolutely. Yes".
Eva (02:11):
"What am I agreeing to?"
Kami (02:12):
It doesn't matter.
Eva (02:13):
Can I think about it?
Kami (02:14):
No. No, you don't think about it. You just say yes.
Eva (02:19):
I always say everybody has a wishlist. We all have a very medium to long list of things we would do if funds were not a consideration.
Kami (02:28):
I don't know what I would. If I was like unlimited money, what would I do? Probably whatever the procedures, whatever they can do to reduce the cellulite in your legs, I would do that. Botox fillers. But I wouldn't do cheek fillers. I'd probably just do Botox and lip fillers. And then I would do the cellulite reduction, whether that's because there's a couple different ones, right? I mean, I'm sure there's more than that, but I don't know. But anyways, yeah, so we all have a list.
Eva (03:05):
My neck was really visible after losing roughly a hundred pounds. It was always there. So I spent some time memorializing it kind of like the day before you have a baby where you're like, "Oh my gosh, I need a picture of myself."
Kami (03:18):
This is the last time.
Eva (03:19):
This is the last time I'll ever be pregnant. I need a picture of it. I did that. There are almost no pictures of me when I was pregnant because I weighed 300 pounds. And who wanted a picture of that? Literally nobody wanted to see that. I just did it because I was like, "Someday I'm not going to look like this and I'm going to talk about it on a podcast."
Kami (03:39):
Here we are eight years later.
Eva (03:41):
And so I did some memorializing of the neck because I was like, "It's going to go. It's going to be gone and I'm going to need some social media content."
Kami (03:53):
Perfect. Oh, so speaking of social media, y'all, our Instagram got shut down yesterday.
Eva (03:59):
For a day.
Kami (04:00):
For one day.
Eva (04:00):
I was in the middle of making a post about my neck with an NSYNC song bye, bye, bye.
Kami (04:07):
And she's furiously texting me. She's like, "Our IG account is offline." I'm like, "Whoa, what do we do?" Oh, look at you. Yeah.
Eva (04:18):
Yeah. Okay. So here's me making sure that we know what my neck looked like the morning before. This is 6:43 AM. I'm about to leave.
Kami (04:27):
I love how your kid's just getting dressed right next to you and is like, this is just perfectly normal.
Eva (04:31):
Taking off the temporary tattoo before she goes to school.
Kami (04:32):
Absolutely normal thing for mom to be doing in the bathroom while I'm getting dressed.
Eva (04:37):
She had temporary tattoos all over her face from a birthday party.
Kami (04:41):
Oh, okay.
Eva (04:42):
So she had to get them off before school and that's what we were doing there. And then I said, "You take a picture of my neck. You're really good at taking photos from below." She was like, "Oh, thanks mom." And I'm mugging like, "Here's my neck. Looks really bad, doesn't it?"
Kami (04:58):
I mean, as necks go, it is not the worst that I've ever seen.
Eva (05:04):
No. In certain positions it's really.
Kami (05:07):
If you've got somebody that's like, "Hey, I want to do this thing on you and fix it right up," then great.
Eva (05:14):
Yeah. I mean, you can really see it.
Kami (05:15):
Yeah. When you turn that way to that side, you get the. Yes. Yeah. Okay.
Eva (05:21):
Yeah. So then I did another one in the car. It was a very long, long stoplight. I was like, "This is going to be better. Look how bad. It's really bad."
Kami (05:34):
People get traffic tickets for that,
Eva (05:36):
Right? I look cooler with my glasses on.
Kami (05:37):
Well, everyone does, but yes. I do actually like those quite a bit.
Eva (05:43):
Thank you.
Kami (05:43):
Yeah. Thank you. Those are nice. I like them when they fade down where they're dark at the top and light at the bottom. So you can look through the bottom and still see your phone and whatever else. That's really nice.
Eva (05:54):
These are the official ones in the studio, which they actually look really quite nice. So we tried a couple times. We were trying to get an animated before.
Kami (06:06):
Your eyes are so gorgeous, by the way.
Eva (06:09):
Oh, thank you.
Kami (06:09):
Yeah. Very pretty.
Eva (06:12):
So we did this a few times. We finally got a good one where I didn't act like a goon.
Kami (06:18):
That was probably really difficult for you, wasn't it?
Eva (06:20):
I'm going like this with my feet to turn the stool.
Kami (06:25):
But you're trying not to make it feel like that, like you're jiggling around. Yeah.
Eva (06:29):
Yeah.
Kami (06:29):
You're a professional. That is true.
Eva (06:31):
Yeah. I have seen a few before and afters in my life. The blue, she's got a beautiful before and after room with the blue wall and the lighting is perfect and the camera, there's marks on the floor, so they get really good photography.
Kami (06:45):
Oh, wow.
Eva (06:46):
She drew this grid on my face. And so what she said was actually right before this photo she said, "Hold on, let me take my head wrap off." Cause Dr. Walden, she just had a facelift. So she had one of these on.
Kami (06:58):
Oh gosh.
Eva (06:58):
And she was like, "Don't take pictures of me with my head wrap on." So she took it off. And if you can see her shirt, it says Waylon, Waylon, Waylon.
Kami (07:05):
Oh, yes. I love this.
Eva (07:07):
She's an actual Texan. She's from here. She didn't get here as fast as she could like I did. So she gridded my face. And you can see if you look, there's a circle.
Kami (07:20):
What's that about?
Eva (07:21):
She didn't actually tell me. I asked the nurse, I was like, "Why is there a circle on one side, not the other?" And she was like, "Well, she must have seen something right there that she wanted to make sure she got when she got in there." And so we kind of had a giggle about that. But today I was actually reading an article about how it's possible that if you sleep on one side for most of your life, that that side will end up looking different or worse potentially than the other side that you don't sleep on. So this morning I theorized that because I've been sleeping on that side for so long, that's why there was that. It was a little different outside. Then I have a had, I don't have it now, but on Monday I did, kind of this very deep wrinkle.
(08:04):
It's like a trench. I called it a trench running down that left side of my face.
Kami (08:11):
Holy.
Eva (08:12):
Then this is the immediate aftermath. So that says 11:30 AM. So this was 8:30.
Kami (08:18):
It looks like you just fell forward right on your face.
Eva (08:23):
Yeah. It does look like that.
Kami (08:24):
God, how much pain were you in?
Eva (08:27):
Really none. It didn't hurt.
Kami (08:30):
Because I know that sometimes what they'll do is they'll put whatever numbing, whether it's lidocaine or whatever in with it so that it's numbing you and doing its job. It's whatever it is, whether you're getting injections or whatever.
Eva (08:45):
So what happened between 8:30 and 11:30? This is the fun part. Dr. Walden is the chief medical officer of this device company and the device is called Junera, J-U-N-E-R-A. And she's done over a hundred cases. So it's not like I was the first one. She's been doing it for a while. She's got tons of photos. They're gorgeous photos. So what I had been doing while I was deciding was watching all the videos and pictures as one would just to make sure that this is something I really wanted to do. And so I really believed we were going to just do my neck and my lower face. But it turns out that Dr. Walden is a perfectionist.
(09:30):
I think one of the most interesting things about being in this business and never really being a patient, what I realized while I was driving over there was that I actually have never let a plastic surgeon do anything. I've never asked a plastic surgeon to do anything for me. I've had tons of laser treatments. I've been trying to avoid having plastic surgeons do anything to me by leaning on lasers really for most of my entire life because I like lasers. They're effective, especially if you do them a lot. And it was really, I don't even know how to describe it. I would go through fire for this person, for this doctor.
Kami (10:15):
Nice.
Eva (10:16):
I would walk through fire for her.
Kami (10:18):
Oh, nice.
(10:18):
She, it was like I was the only person on the entire planet while she was taking care of me.
(10:24):
Yeah. She was like 100% focused on you. That's very nice.
Eva (10:29):
Yeah, 110%. My husband would be like, "That's not a thing. Randy Jackson. Okay. 1000 million% yes." You remember that?
Kami (10:38):
Yes.
Eva (10:38):
From American Idol?
Kami (10:39):
Yes.
Eva (10:40):
Yeah. That drove him crazy because he's a math teacher. But she protected and defended me from the beginning to the end in a way that I cannot explain unless maybe to someone else who's been through something like that. And so I said to her nurse kind of near the end, after I came out of it, that about 25 years ago when I started working in medicine, one of my assignments was to go off and talk to these LASIK surgeons and write articles about why people have LASIK surgery on their eyeballs. And I came back and I was like, well, I interviewed six different surgeons. I remember saying, "Well, this one was so nice. I just loved him." And the guy I was working for at the time said, "Would you rather have a scientist operate on your eyes or somebody that's your friend?"
Kami (11:40):
Well.
Eva (11:42):
And I was like, "That's a good question." On that day, I remember very vividly, I said I would absolutely pick the scientist every time. Would you rather have somebody who's absolutely obsessed with their craft or would you rather have somebody who cares more about whether you like them or not?
Kami (12:03):
Well, yeah, I see the point there. I definitely see the obsessed with their craft thing. I want you to finish your story, but that is triggering me to talk to you about something else that we haven't talked about yet. So keep going.
Eva (12:17):
Okay. Do you need me to write it down because you have perimenopause?
Kami (12:20):
No. I'm on a patch now. I just changed it. I'm okay. Yes. I have notes here too. I can write stuff down.
Eva (12:32):
Oh, okay, good. Post-its are your friend.
Kami (12:35):
Yep.
Eva (12:36):
So I was sedated. So I took two pills as soon as we got there.
Kami (12:42):
What did they give you? Was it.
Eva (12:44):
Well, one was Valium and the other was a very strong pain pill. So there were two.
Kami (12:49):
Okay. And that's it, huh?
Eva (12:50):
After about 45 minutes, I was still hanging out, having a good time with everybody. And they were like, "Yeah, we're going to give you another one of the things that was like Valium." It was the generic, so I can't remember the name of it. But they gave me another one and then I was pretty goofy at that point. And so they took me into the OR and I didn't have my socks on yet. And so then I took my shoes off and I started to put a sock on and then I almost fell over and they were all like, "Do not fall."
Kami (13:24):
Oh my God. Could you imagine?
Eva (13:28):
If I crashed and burned while I was trying to put my socks on.
Kami (13:35):
Eva.
Eva (13:37):
I know.
Kami (13:38):
No.
Eva (13:40):
She gave me nitrous oxide. It was, I believe, 50% oxygen, 50% nitrous. So that when she started using the needles to do all the blocks and numb my face up, that I didn't really notice or feel any of that because that's what the nitrous is for. So Jenny was actually there and she held the nitrous for me so I didn't have to hold it myself. And I remember at one point I said, "I feel like I just did a whip it."
Kami (14:12):
Do you have experience with that?
Eva (14:14):
Well, then I realized they would all know that I have experience with that. And before I could say anything else, Dr. Walden goes, "Feels like high school, huh?"
Kami (14:28):
No. Oh my God.
Eva (14:32):
Yeah. And then I'm backpedaling like, "Not that I know what that feels like."
Kami (14:35):
I'm just guessing. It's just a guess, but it just came right out of my face. I just heard about it.
Eva (14:39):
Yeah. No. So it gets a little fuzzy at that point. And I'm aware of certain things. There's some things I don't really want to share publicly on the show, but there was someone in the room who started asking her a question that I was really interested in. I was interested in the question and the answer to the question. And I think that she felt me activate to the question. I wanted to engage with it. And when she realized that it was keeping me from relaxing, she told them to stop talking.
Kami (15:21):
Hey.
Eva (15:23):
And when you're on all that stuff, all I could think was, "I love you. I love you. You're my favorite person in the entire world.This is what I'm thinking about Dr. Walden in this moment." So that was awesome. And so when she's doing this treatment, it's a little tiny fiber optic. I never actually saw it. They describe it like it's about the size of a piece of spaghetti. And so there's an itty bitty little puncture or something under the tape right here. And so she went in and she did this half of my face first. And so while the fiber's in there, you can hear it. It's like crackling and popping. It sounds really crazy.
Kami (16:08):
Oh, that would be, I don't know. I don't
Eva (16:10):
So she's working it with one hand and she's a lefty, which I also found really interesting. One of my kids is left-handed.
Kami (16:16):
My husband is, and my dad, and his mom. No, and Justin's mom is also. We have a lot of lefties over here.
Eva (16:23):
So she's feeling it with both one hand on the outside and then with the piece of spaghetti on the other side. I never saw it, so I can't describe that part. You can kind of see videos of it online. There's a bunch of them out there where they're doing it. But she's working her way through and she's got a bunch of calculations were being done related to that grid that was on my face. So she knows how much energy she's using because there's two wavelengths in this thing. So she's got a whole plan designed for how she wants to contour my face in order to make it look tighter and remove fat wherever there was fat that could go. So she did this side, then she did this side, and then she moved down to my neck. And by then I was pretty much out.
(17:14):
I remember being able to hear them, but time just sort of goes into a black hole.
Kami (17:20):
So what's your pain management like?
Eva (17:24):
None, I don't have any pain. There has never been any. Doesn't hurt.
Kami (17:28):
Really? I just would think you would at least be a little sore.
Eva (17:32):
It's sore, but it doesn't hurt. It's not like it's sore if you touch it, but it's otherwise no.
Kami (17:37):
Okay.
Eva (17:38):
And this thing has the added side benefit of helping you breathe through your nose. So I may just keep it. I mean, I'll get a clean one and a new one, but it actually really helps me sleep better because it keeps my mouth shut.
Kami (17:53):
And that is our transition.
Eva (17:56):
Oh, what you got?
Kami (17:58):
Because I need to have work done on my sinuses and my nose because I am a mouth breather at night. I've struggled with sleep apnea. Let's see. And I'm for 14 years. I was diagnosed at 32. And I thought it was like, oh, I've lost all this weigh. I don't need the CPAP machine anymore. Well, that's not entirely correct. And then I tried to get a new one and I swear to God, insurance companies, I want to burn them all to the ground. A lady calls me from the clinic and she's like, "Hey, I need a copy of your original diagnosis, your original sleep study that diagnosed you with sleep apnea." I'm like, "Do you mean at a clinic on the other side of the country that I went to 14 years ago? You want me to call them up and send it to you?"
(18:59):
So I tried. They were like, "This is in our way old system and you have to get only certain people have access to the old system to be able to archive it." I went back and forth and finally I was like, "Whatever." I just gave up. Mostly because I was just frustrated and depressed and not sleeping. So none of that helped. So I had seen some advertisements for this particular clinic here in Indianapolis called Advent. They are a literally ENT strictly, that's all they do. So I made an appointment. I said, "Well, I went in there for them basically just to prove to me that I don't really have any other problems and I'm just going to have to get it." And I figured, I was like, "They'll help me get a new CPAP machine because mine's seven or eight years old and you're supposed to replace them every five years." And they were top-notch these people.
(19:53):
I was so impressed. I met with, she's a PA, and they had all of the charts on the walls. She showed me exactly what was going on. So I have two things happening. So there's these things inside your nose called turbinates, and they're like these wavy structures on the inside of your nose. And they swell when you're sick or you're having allergies or at night when you're sleeping. And sometimes they'll stay so swollen for so long that they won't know how to be unswollen. So I have to have what is called radiofrequency nasal treatment. So that's going to be something that they go up in my nose and they shrink them, for lack of a better term. I was already.
Eva (20:44):
That's cool.
Kami (20:45):
Yeah. So that is part one. Part two is the balloon sinuplasty. So because I'm having swelling, not only in the nose, but in the sinuses, which I kind of really all thought was the same thing. Apparently it is not. I just thought it was all the same. I was like, oh, your sinuses. I just thought it was in. But that's not. So I need two things done. My appointment is in about a month and a half. And so we're just figuring out the insurance because I had to change insurance and all this. But what triggered me to talk about this was when you were saying how you felt like she was just solely focused on you and you were the only other person on the planet. And that's kind of the same feeling that I got when I talked to this doctor. His name's Dr. Carol. Adorable guy. Because I was already sold on all of this. I said, "Okay, I'm sold. Let's make the appointment." He's like, "But don't you want me to explain how it works?" "Okay, sure. Go right ahead. "It was hilarious because then he was off like a rocket.
(21:49):
He's like," Okay, so this happens when that happens. And then after this, then this happens. And then we do this. "And he's showing me my. I had to have a CT scan, which they do there. He's showing what mine looked like versus a normal person. The first appointment, they took a teeny, tiny little camera and she sticks it up there and she's looking at it and she could get it so far up my nose on one side. And on the other side, she couldn't even get it in. She couldn't even get it up there. She's like," So you're basically 80% closed on one side and 90% closed on the other side. And so what's happening is when you naturally would swell overnight, you're getting completely shut off".
Eva (22:28):
Oh my goodness.
Kami (22:29):
I'm like.
Eva (22:31):
It all makes sense.
Kami (22:34):
Okay. Right. So you'll clearly see that that's what the inside of my nose looks like. And the one on the right is the normal person. So you can see that, how swollen all my stuff is. Yeah. All of it.
Eva (22:54):
Oh, yeah.
Kami (22:55):
And that's almost completely closed right there where your pointer is, almost completely closed.
Eva (22:59):
I can see that. You would normally have a lot more space here.
Kami (23:02):
Oh, yeah.
Eva (23:03):
So that must be where the camera was trying to go.
Kami (23:06):
Yep. And couldn't even get. Yep.
Eva (23:09):
And it's not blocked over here. Yeah. It's a different thing.
Kami (23:12):
Right.
Eva (23:13):
Wow, Cam.
Kami (23:13):
Yeah, the center one is where you're like -
Eva (23:17):
How does this happen? What causes this kind of inflammation?
Kami (23:21):
And that's the thing. I was like, "How did we get here?" And he's like, "Well, there's a lot of explanations, but it's almost impossible to pinpoint down exactly what it was. It could be anything from allergies. I know that I am allergic to dust mites. So if I'm not cleaning my house twenty four seven, maybe that's what's causing. I don't know. You know what I mean? Yeah. Or seasonal allergies that bother you, plus environmental allergies or genetics. It's probably a combination of all those things. So hopefully I will get this treatment. And then the goal is to not have to use a CPAP machine that all I would need is a, I said," So of course she's saying all this stuff to me. The doctor's great. And I'm like, "Okay, but y'all, I grind my teeth. So I'm still going to have to wear a mouth guard of some kind." And he's like, "Yeah, we can get you one where it pulls your jaw forward." And he's like, "I think after you get this done, that all you'll need is that and you'll sleep and be fine."
Eva (24:35):
Excellent.
Kami (24:37):
What? I was like, "Yeah, because if I don't have to have a CPAP machine and change out the filters and the masks and all that stuff over. It's covered by insurance for a certain period of time, but after that they're like, Nah. And a mask, just the mask itself can be $100 and you're supposed to replace them every three to six months probably, which I never do. So anyways, yeah, so that's my awesome doctor story.
Eva (25:08):
So when I got out of there, I was like, in my workaholic brain, I thought, oh, I'll just go home and go back to work. And I even brought my laptop. And so I sat down in Jenny's office and busted it open. I was like, "What do we need to get done today?" They were laughing at me. They were like, Girl,
Kami (25:26):
What are you doing?
Eva (25:27):
No. Put the computer away, dumb dumb. I drove my car over there and left it there and Jenny drove me home. I do remember them getting me to the car in a wheelchair. I could not even walk. I was so loopy from the beds that I couldn't stand up.
Kami (25:45):
But you're about to edit podcasts and videos and that's -
Eva (25:48):
Oh yeah. I'm going to just go back to writing or whatever.
Kami (25:52):
Oh, okay.
Eva (25:53):
No problem. And she took me to Chick-fil-A and I started arguing. I was like, "I don't want Chick-fil-A. I want something else." She's like, "Shut up. You're getting Chick-fil-A. What do you want?" So I said, "Give me a cool wrap with Ranch."
Kami (26:10):
Heck yeah.
Eva (26:11):
I don't remember any of the rest of going home. I kind of told her where to turn, I think. I don't remember how she got me in the house. I climbed in bed. You don't remember? Four hours later when I woke up, there was the cool wrap from Chick-fil-A right on the bed next to me. Unopened, uneaten. I just crashed and I slept for four hours. I had a meeting at 3:30 and I warned them ahead of time. It was another plastic surgery office. I was like, "I will join the meeting, but y'all are going to laugh at me. It's going to be funny and I'm not going to be very useful probably." And they were like, "Okay, we'll see what happens." And so sure enough, I jumped on the meeting and I sat here like this, and I'm sure I said the right thing, but I do not remember it at all.
Kami (27:03):
Right on. Well, so let me ask you this. How long will it be before you are 100% back to normal? No swelling at all. Is it like weeks, months?
Eva (27:13):
No. What I was told, and we'll find out tomorrow, is that after 72 hours, the swelling starts going down. So it goes up and then it peaks and then it starts coming down. So by tomorrow morning, we start to see it coming down. All the photos I've seen of all the people who've had it, by 10 days they look glorious.
Kami (27:29):
Really?
Eva (27:29):
Glorious.
Kami (27:30):
That's a really quick turnaround.
Eva (27:32):
Yeah, it should be. It's mostly just swelling. There's nothing else to look at. There's some bruising right here. And this is numb. This whole scenario up here, that's at 11:30 side. There's ice stuffed in my. Oh, that's gauze. Eventually I stuff in
Kami (27:52):
I was like is that a sock?
Eva (27:53):
No. There's a little tiny -
Kami (27:55):
It looks like a little kid's sock.
Eva (27:58):
The entry point was over here, so there was gauze kind of stuffed in there. And then you can put an ice pack, like one of those little ones, you can kind of stuff them in your face bra. I took this one because I was like, "This is the woman who did this to me." I'm pointing at Dr. Walden.
Kami (28:14):
Oh, look at her. Oh, she's gorgeous. That's silly.
Eva (28:16):
She is absolutely stunning.
Kami (28:21):
With the sunglasses. Do you remember taking these pictures?
Eva (28:27):
No.
Kami (28:27):
Oh my God.
Eva (28:29):
1:54 PM. You can see them. Yeah. Oh, the ice packs are still in the sides.
Kami (28:36):
Your one eye is not even focused either.
Eva (28:39):
6:22 PM. Oh my God. This is when I'm like, "What did I do?"
Kami (28:45):
Did you just suck down a protein shake for dinner? Because there's no chewing.
Eva (28:49):
I could chew.
Kami (28:50):
You could?
Eva (28:52):
I did not eat anything until I finally got back around to the cool wrap.
Kami (28:55):
Oh, okay.
Eva (28:56):
It was very swollen. So I walked through the living room and I said, "Do I look better yet?" And my husband started laughing and he goes, "You look like Anna Ferris in just friends." So then I had to do the who wore it better.
Kami (29:09):
Oh, so great.
Eva (29:11):
Which I sent to you.
Kami (29:12):
Yes.
Eva (29:12):
Then I sent it to a couple choice friends.
Kami (29:14):
Classic. Very perfect.
Eva (29:17):
Yeah.
Kami (29:17):
Okay.
Eva (29:18):
And then I'm just trying to. You can already see it's getting better.
Kami (29:21):
Oh yeah. Yeah, you can.
Eva (29:23):
That was 9:47 PM.
Kami (29:25):
Okay. All right. So it seems to go down pretty quickly.
Eva (29:32):
And this is yesterday at 5:42 AM. And I got the wisdom teeth ice pack, so that was -
Kami (29:39):
Oh, there you go.
Eva (29:40):
Okay. Now, this is last night at 8:56 PM. I took the head wrap off for the first time to see what was going on underneath. And I can tell you already that there is a lot of goodness going on here.
Kami (29:59):
That's impressive. Wow.
Eva (30:02):
Yes, It is.
Kami (30:04):
Wow.
Eva (30:07):
Stay tuned. Come back next week for the great reveal.
Kami (30:11):
We didn't even touch on our numbers or any of our actual weight loss stuff, which is what we're supposed to do.
Eva (30:19):
This is adjacent. It's fine.
Kami (30:22):
This is the aftermath of the weight loss. This is the next thing. So just as a reminder, we do have a coupon code. If anybody is interested in semaglutide or tirzepatide or anything like that, you can go to epixnxt.com. That is E-P-I-X-N-X-T and use LESSOFYOU10 as a coupon code.
Eva (30:48):
Yes. Help us keep the show going so we can talk about this ridiculousness some more. Yes. Thank you to those of you who are sending us messages. You don't have any idea how important that is to us.
Kami (31:02):
Yeah. We did get an IG message from a woman through Instagram and it was very kind and sweet. So I wanted to recognize her. Thank you so much.
Eva (31:10):
If our Instagram gets nuked for any reason again, ever, you can always message us at lessofyou.com. There's a form there that you can use and send us.
Kami (31:20):
Yeah. Ask questions. Maybe we should have like a from the listener section.
Eva (31:27):
Anytime.
Kami (31:28):
Yeah, you let us know.
Eva (31:29):
If we had more, we have three now. We have Deborah, Maureen and our friend who's just on Instagram.
Kami (31:34):
Yes, on Instagram. Okay. Let's sign off.
Eva (31:38):
Okay. Bye Deborah.
Kami (31:40):
Bye, Maureen.
Eva (31:43):
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