Why you shouldn’t go off meds

Eva (00:01):
Now seriously, what did you do?

Kami (00:04):
I put hair extensions in.

Eva (00:08):
Where did you find these?

Kami (00:10):
Wildcraftedbeauty.com.

Eva (00:13):
Okay.

Kami (00:14):
You will not regret it. Yeah. They're full synthetic in sections. Yeah. Just move that. That's better.

Eva (00:26):
Hairdressers, man. What motivated you to do this though?

Kami (00:34):
Well, I've been thinking about it for a while. And then this video came across my Pinterest on how to install them. And I was like, oh, I could do that myself. Because I thought for sure I was going to have to pay somebody to put them in if I really wanted to do it. But I was like, shoot, I can do this myself. So now that I can install them myself, then it's way easy.

Eva (00:56):
How long does it take?

Kami (00:59):
Well, I take a lot of breaks because you're doing it on yourself. And I only have all of this- So your arms get tired. Yeah. So all of this in the back is shaved. So I'm only installed on the top.

Eva (01:13):
Okay. So you shaved your head too.

Kami (01:15):
Yeah. That I went to a barber for and it was the best experience. He was great. Yeah. So it takes me about four hours. But that's start to finish. I take a lot of breaks. I'm watching TV. Cordelia's coming in and talking to me. You know what I mean? I feel like if I was doing this on someone else, it would be like I could do it in an hour and a half.

Eva (01:39):
Oh, sure.

Kami (01:40):
Two hours maybe.

Eva (01:41):
I put those cheap blue extensions in the girl's hair for track and field day.

Kami (01:47):
Oh, fun. How'd they like it?

Eva (01:49):
Oh, they loved it.

Kami (01:50):
Kordelia is not about any hair stuff at all. I was like, why is the hairdresser's kid not into doing her hair? I put her hair in a ponytail for gymnastics and she takes that out immediately when we get in the car and we're done.

Eva (02:07):
Yep.

Kami (02:08):
Can't stand it. Can't stand, doesn't like ... She'll do a headband every once in a while, but doesn't like her.

Eva (02:14):
Well, you don't have anything to compare her to. I have one that will let me do anything I want to her hair and dress her any way I want to, my little dolly, and the other one won't let me do anything.

Kami (02:25):
Yeah. Yeah. My nieces are all about it. They're like, "Ooh, braid my hair, curl my hair, dye my hair, pink, do all the things." And Kordelia's like, "Nah, I'm good." I'm like,

Eva (02:36):
Yep.

Kami (02:37):
The hell. Yeah.

Eva (02:41):
Well, it's been a minute. I'm happy to see you.

Kami (02:43):
I am too. I'm so glad you messaged me. I feel like there's been a lot going on. I had a setback. I had a-

Eva (02:51):
Shoot. What happened?

Kami (02:53):
25 pound setback.

Eva (02:55):
Oh, no.

Kami (02:56):
Yeah. What happened was I ran out of the medication and I was trying to figure out where to get it from. And on top of that, I stopped taking my thyroid medication like I'm supposed to, and that's crucial. And so I was stopping the medication and my thyroid was not working, so that made me gain weight. And I kind of just spiraled right down. But I've kind of come out of it. I'm feeling like I'm getting better mentally, and I did change some of my mental health medications a little bit. So that was an adjustment, but everything's good. I just got to get back on the bandwagon. Setbacks happen and I'm not beating myself up about it.

Eva (03:48):
So you have to find a new source for medication or did you already do that?

Kami (03:51):
Yes. No, I did. Yeah. I'm getting it. There's a local compounding pharmacy. So I thought that insurance companies were coming around and covering this medication, but they're not.

Eva (04:06):
Not really.

Kami (04:07):
But I went to my regular provider and I said, "Hey, this is what I've been doing. This is what I'm on. Is this something you can help me with? " She's like, "Oh yeah, totally." So I get it from a local compounding pharmacy instead of an out- of-state one. So I feel good about that. But I switched to Tirzepatide.

Eva (04:27):
Oh, good.

Kami (04:28):
Yes. So I've been on it for four weeks. It took about two and a half weeks for me to feel like it was doing anything. But again, I stopped taking my thyroid medication correctly because you have to take that on a completely empty stomach and you can't eat for a whole hour. After you take it, you can't take supplements. In fact, they told me at one point, you're not supposed to take any other pills until four hours later because at one point in time, I was just taking it with all my other multivitamins. I'm like, "No, no, you can't do that. " I'm like, "Oh, okay." So I got out of the routine and so now I'm back in the routine because I get up so early now because I started working full-time. Did we talk about this? I think we did.

Eva (05:20):
Yes.

Kami (05:21):
Yeah. So that was an adjustment because I go in, I get up usually like 4:00 and I'm usually at work by 4:45, five o'clock. But if it's a light day, I could be done at 10:30 or 11:00 and have the rest of the day to myself. So for us, it works out really well because Justin works second shift, so he goes in at 1:00, or I think he has to be there at 1:30 at the latest. So sometimes we see each other during the week, sometimes we don't, but it's working out really well. I really like it. It's like the most least stressful job I've ever had, so I cannot complain. And the guys I work with are really fun and super sarcastic, which is like totally-

Eva (06:09):
Oh, right up your alley. ...

Kami (06:11):
Perfect for me.

Eva (06:12):
Yeah, that is good.

Kami (06:13):
Yeah. It's wonderful. It's just like a fun environment.

Eva (06:19):
What kind of food do they have around the office? Is there anything that like ...

Kami (06:24):
I mean, there's like a Wawa and a Subway down the street.

Eva (06:29):
Is it close enough to walk?

Kami (06:31):
No.

Eva (06:32):
Oh.

Kami (06:32):
I mean, I could, but I don't ... Yeah. Usually I grab something on the way in, but I'm the kind of person that ... I like to just get all my work done and leave. I hate taking lunch breaks because I kind of feel like I lose my steam mentally to get the work done, then I have to rev, you know what I mean? I don't know.

Eva (06:55):
When did lunch become not a thing? I remember-

Kami (06:58):
I think it's been not a thing for a while.

Eva (07:00):
A long time. I got a job in retail at a shoe store and I remember being like, "When do I go to lunch?" And he just looked at me. He was like, "We don't really do that here."

Kami (07:11):
They do it at the pharmacy though. They will close down between 1:30 and 2:00.

Eva (07:16):
Very inconvenient when they do that. I know.

Kami (07:20):
There's like the last two times I went by there, I looked down at the thing and I was like, it was 1:20 and I thought, "Oh, I'm not going to make it before they close for half an hour." The pharmacy lunch is like the last holdout of-

(07:32):
I think so.

Eva (07:34):
And it's such bad service because everybody else needs to go to the pharmacy.

Kami (07:37):
Well, that's the thing. I was like, you have plenty of people to stagger your lunches.

Eva (07:42):
Yeah, they just choose not to. I know I hate that.

Kami (07:44):
Your hours are like 8:00 or 9:00 AM till sometimes 8:00 or 9:00 PM. So you obviously have people not working the full 12 hours. So what the fuck is this half an hour break thing? It's just stupid.

Eva (07:58):
Nobody knows.

Kami (08:00):
I don't get it either.

Eva (08:01):
It's been a long time, but every once in a while I will run into a plastic surgery office that still closes for lunch. I can't remember the last time that happened. They finally all caught on and said, "Maybe we're losing money by being closed."

Kami (08:17):
Okay.

Eva (08:17):
I don't know.

Kami (08:18):
I don't know either, but-

Eva (08:19):
It's almost like ... Does the pharmacy not understand that there's other pharmacies we can go to that are open during lunch?

Kami (08:27):
Well, yeah. So the one I go to regularly is Walmart and I had been going to CVS and they closed for lunch too, same time.

Eva (08:34):
Then they're colluding to close for lunch with each other. They're all having lunch together somewhere.

Kami (08:39):
Well, that's the thing. I was like, you go in and it's like the farmies literally shut down. The gate is down, all the lights are off, ghost town in there.

Eva (08:49):
Yeah, because you know there's going to be some Karen. If they can see even like a crack

Kami (08:51):
If they can see somebody.

Eva (08:54):
Slide a note under the gate. Yeah. Yeah. I like to read on Reddit and one of the fun ones is the pharmacy people. They are so mistreated. If you work at a big corporate pharmacy like CVS, Walgreens-

Kami (09:08):
I believe it. Yeah. I believe that.

Eva (09:10):
But they have good stories. I have a really good friend who's a pharmacist, but she's a clinical pharmacist, so she works in the hospital.

Kami (09:17):
Oh, okay.

Eva (09:18):
So if you are in the hospital and you need medicine-

Kami (09:22):
She's getting it for you.

Eva (09:23):
Yes. And she also serves as a resource to the doctor. So if they're not sure what medicine is available for something, they can go ask her and she consults with them and she walks around with them. It's really neat. Really interesting. I never thought about it.

Kami (09:41):
No. So how are you doing with your numbers?

Eva (09:45):
I'm stalled. I've been stalled for a long time and I think I have to solve for this problem right now. I have to find a new provider too. And the problem is where I used to go, they fired everybody.

(10:03):
They're sort of mass laying or what?

(10:06):
Yeah. They just downsized and the angel that was helping me named Ashley, she was downsized and so she had to find a different job. I know where she is now though.

Kami (10:15):
Okay. Well ...

Eva (10:16):
So I'm going to start there.

Kami (10:17):
Okay.

Eva (10:18):
I'll just make an appointment and be like, "Surprise." Yay.

Kami (10:21):
She'd probably be happy to see you, I'm sure.

Eva (10:24):
She probably will. But I really need somebody who can help me get to the end because I've been stuck for so long. And I'm also a little worried about my face because what would happen if I lost another 15 or 20 pounds to my face?

Kami (10:40):
I think you'll be fine.

Eva (10:41):
I don't know. It's pretty bad right now.

Kami (10:44):
Really?

Eva (10:44):
Yeah.

Kami (10:45):
Well, my mom did that, oh God, that laser resurfacing thing.

Eva (10:50):
Yeah.

Kami (10:50):
She really liked that. I mean-

Eva (10:52):
Yes, I know. I have an open offer from my friend who does all my laser to do full face resurfacing, but her practice got bought by private equity and she's not sure if she's going to stay forever because it's just really yucky. It's gotten really gross. So I mean, it feels like everywhere I go, the world is changing. It doesn't matter where. It's all upside down and nothing feels stable. So all these people are moving around and my own doctor can get medication for me, but she's been kind of anti- GLP-1. She's on the tail edge of adoption. She's on the backside of it. Does that make sense?

Kami (11:37):
Yeah.

Eva (11:38):
She's not an early adopter. She is a late adopter and I think she still thinks someday I'm going to go off of it, which I don't think. I don't agree with that.

Kami (11:47):
I know.

Eva (11:48):
Right before we got on this podcast, I binged two mini cones because why not?

Kami (11:54):
Why not? It's fine.

Eva (11:55):
I mean, they were mini cones, so it's okay to eat too, right?

Kami (11:59):
I think that's absolutely fine.

Eva (12:01):
So I'm still having a sugar attack in the middle of the day.

Kami (12:04):
Yeah.

Eva (12:05):
One of the other things that happened that was really hard was we talked, I think our last episode sadly was in December.

Kami (12:15):
I was like, oh, I think it's

Eva (12:16):
So sorry audience.

Kami (12:18):
So sorry about it. Sorry, we love you. Just life happened and it ran away from us. So sorry.

Eva (12:23):
And so I did some things in December that caused me to not have a very good holiday. And then I was kind of in a funk and then I just was really ragey. I was mad all the time and I couldn't get myself out of it. So I was really angry, but I wasn't angry at any one thing.

Kami (12:41):
Just irritated, just irritable.

Eva (12:42):
Yeah.

Kami (12:43):
Yeah.

Eva (12:44):
I was talking to my friend Monique, who's a couple years older than us and not much. And I was describing this to her and she started laughing and she was like, "You need hormones." I was like, "Oh, that's what it is. "

Kami (12:57):
I had mine checked the last time I went. I think that was November and she's like, "Everything's fine." And I'm like, "Okay."

Eva (13:06):
Well, it was fine. It wasn't fine. The numbers weren't fine, but I felt fine. So last time I talked about it with the doctor, she was like, "Well, as long as you feel fine, then let's keep doing nothing." Okay, great. I'm fine with that. Well, then when Monique said that, I was like, "Oh, I'm not fine." So I immediately messaged her and I was like, "Here's what's going on. I'm super mad for no reason." And she sent the prescription in and I started taking it two days later and immediately felt better overnight, not placebo because I also started sleeping again and I wasn't sleeping well. And so that probably is more of it than anything. If you sleep well every night, multiple nights in a row, then you're not angry all the time because you're not sleeping.

Kami (13:51):
It's weird how that works.

Eva (13:53):
All kind of goes together.

Kami (13:55):
Yeah.

Eva (13:56):
So that was a positive improvement. And I solved all of ... I had a whole bunch of weird open challenges that all needed to get resolved. And the only way out of it was through it. And I'm almost entirely through all of those, a lot of it was just regular work stuff, but doing better. The girls are going to go to a new school next year, so that was one of the things that we-

Kami (14:21):
That's a lot. Oh my God, if Kordelia had to go to a different school, I think I would lose my mind, lose my mind because don't do anything to rock the boat. She knows who the school is. She's familiar. All the same kids, she will be in the exact same class with all the same kids, all the way through elementary school. If I had to put her in a different school, I just couldn't do it. There's just no way. So good for you. That's a lot to handle.

Eva (14:49):
Yeah. Switching school when you don't know where you're going to go. If you know where you're going to go, you just go about your way. But if you don't know where you're going to go, that's a whole different thing. That's really hard.

Kami (15:01):
Yep. That's rough.

Eva (15:03):
But we figured it out. So they're going to go to a brand new school that ... And so I don't know what's going on in Indiana, but in Texas, the school choice movement has made a lot of progress in the last couple years. There was like V1, which was charter schools became possible, but that happened 20 years ago. So Charter is pretty mature in Texas, but micro schools, home schools, like all this fringy stuff wasn't really funded. It was not funded. And so I pay attention to this issue, partly because my husband's a teacher, but also I think it's really interesting. And they got a new law passed a year ago that funded these educational savings accounts. So if your education option is approved in that group, which all those schools have to do is apply to be in it, try to make this not boring.

(16:03):
Anyway, when this all happened, my prediction was there's going to be a whole bunch of new schools popping up. Some of them are going to be cray-cray, some of them are going to fail, some of them are going to be really good, and it's going to be interesting to watch what happens because this is like free market experiments at scale. It's cool. I enjoy watching what humans do when something big like that changes. I think it's really interesting. So the school they're going to go to didn't even exist this fall. It's brand new. It's so new that no one even had the idea. However, the people that are doing it have launched 12 other schools. They just didn't know they were going to launch one here.

Kami (16:49):
Oh, that's really cool. Well, at least she's getting in on the ground level, or they both are, where all the other students are new, all of the teachers are new. Everybody. Everybody's new, so they're all in the same boat and they're not going to be walking into like, "Oh, these girls are already friends, and then these girls are already friends. And then where are they going to fit?" And the whole hierarchy of everything is-

Eva (17:13):
The same group of the people we already know is a cross section of families we know from church and families we know from our current school. And it's tiny. So we already know about half the school, but we're all starting this kind of together.

Kami (17:27):
Oh, that is really awesome.

Eva (17:29):
Yeah. Oh,

Kami (17:29):
That's exciting.

Eva (17:30):
I'm excited about it.

Kami (17:31):
That's super exciting.

Eva (17:33):
I didn't really even realize how much that was weighing on me until-

Kami (17:36):
Well, it's your children's education. It's a big fucking decision. You can't just like, "Oh, whatever." You know what I mean? No. Yeah.

Eva (17:44):
Oh, this is my other ... Actually, it's my primary current soapbox right now that I'm telling everyone about. I took their iPads away permanently in November.

Kami (17:57):
Okay. How'd that go?

Eva (17:58):
They are amazing. They're so interesting. They're creative. They're funny. Nice. They're sleeping better. They're better behaved. Everything about them is better, everything.

Kami (18:12):
That's awesome.

Eva (18:12):
So they keep asking me, "Can we have the iPads in July when we go to visit grandma?" No. The idea of the addiction, and it really is, it's truly an addiction that's destroying their minds. It's so strong that they are fantasizing about getting their iPads back four months from now.

Kami (18:35):
That's intense. Yeah. I'm finding that Kordelia is ... I don't know how to say this. I don't think that she's addicted, but she's like me in the sense that I can be doing something fun and creative and like, "Oh, I'm working on a quilt or I'm crocheting or I'm doing whatever, but I like something kind of going on in the background, but I'm not actually watching it. " You know what I mean? So I don't know if that's an ADHD thing where you kind of have to have the background noise for the part of your brain that's all over the place to focus on so that your good brain can focus on what you're doing or what you find interesting. But yeah, I did have to take it away from her. It was-

Eva (19:27):
Like for good?

Kami (19:28):
No, it was a, "You're grounded from the iPad for today because of your behavior." And she lost her mind, lost it. And I said, "Oh, okay. Now I know where we're at." Right? So I'm definitely more cognizant of it and keeping an eye on it, but she's so intensely social and she's an extrovert just like me. So she's going to put it away to play with anybody, talk to anybody, do anything with another human being, get outside. You know what I mean? She's not going to be like, "It's a beautiful day outside and I have a bike that I got for Christmas. I don't want to sit inside and watch an iPad." No.

Eva (20:13):
She won't do that.

Kami (20:14):
Yeah. So she's like, "Can I go outside? Can I call the neighbor friends?" "Yeah, girl, go knock yourself out. "In our condo community, we've got this courtyard that I have two windows in my house that face the courtyard. So if she's out there playing with the friends, I'm still keeping an eye on her. I mean, because she's ... Let's see, she'll be eight and a half next month, but she knows the community so well that I'm like, " If you want to walk two doors down, "which they're townhouses, so it's not like a block or anything, to play with her friends or whatever, I let her have that freedom. But yeah, I'm watching it pretty closely and I'm trying to keep track of like, " Okay, what are we doing? Because if she wants to watch videos while she has some dinner, I'm okay with that.

Eva (21:08):
Well, it all comes down to what are you doing with it.

Kami (21:11):
And she's watching all these educational videos. Snake Discovery is her favorite channel.

Eva (21:18):
That's like a small TV, right? So it's the stuff that rots their souls that was what made me walk away. It was like Kari could get sucked into these YouTube shorts, which she's not allowed to watch. So she was already breaking a rule on my own phone and I've deleted YouTube eight million times, but I run a podcast company that publishes videos to YouTube on a daily basis.

Kami (21:48):
Right.

Eva (21:48):
And so I would delete it and then an hour later I would be downloading it. I did figure out that I could, on a per app basis, you can tell it only to allow face ID. So I'm not sure why she can still get into it, but that's beside the point. They don't actually want to restrict it from kids, which is why it's so hard to actually hide one single app from your children on your phone.

Kami (22:12):
Right. Especially with Apple devices where they're all connected, like she had an e-learning day and she forgot her Chromebook. So I had to log in on my laptop, which is a Mac that's hooked to my Apple ID account, which is on my cell phone. So she could read all my text messages. I was like, Oh Shit, I didn't really think about that.

Eva (22:34):
Yeah, they can.

Kami (22:35):
So I was like, oh. And she did her ... I don't know what you guys have over there in Texas, but we have the-

Eva (22:42):
We're screen free at school, so nothing.

Kami (22:44):
Well, it's like the, what is it called? The iRead, like reading comprehension testing.

Eva (22:50):
I-Ready?

Kami (22:51):
What?

Eva (22:51):
Oh, you mean the actual test?

Kami (22:54):
Yeah. So she just did that. She aced it. She did amazing.

Eva (22:57):
DIBELS.

Kami (22:58):
Yeah. So it's like the standardized testing, not just normal everyday school stuff.

Eva (23:04):
Yeah.

Kami (23:05):
Her reading comprehension is amazing.

Eva (23:08):
I have another friend whose son, she switched him from our school, which has no screens back to public school, and he was okay for a few months, but she discovered that he was not being truthful and was spending four to six hours a night on his Chromebook. And somehow kids are really smart.

Kami (23:28):
Like you get home from school and then what, like she thinks he's asleep and he wakes up and gets on it?

Eva (23:34):
He told her he was doing homework. He told her he had four to six hours of homework every night. So finally she thought that was weird and she said to another mom, "Why do they have so much homework?" And she was like, "What homework?" They don't have homework.

Kami (23:50):
Oh, Busted.

Eva (23:52):
Right. So she thinks he was either playing Minecraft and figured out how to get into Minecraft on his school Chromebook, which they all-

Kami (23:59):
They could do it.

Eva (24:01):
They totally can. Or something else. He's a middle school boy.

Kami (24:06):
Oh, Christ.

Eva (24:09):
It happens all the time.

Kami (24:11):
Yeah. That's bananas. Yeah.

Eva (24:14):
Anyway, so I figured the only way is 100% to get rid of it. There just is no world where there's a little because it's too attractive to the kids.

Kami (24:26):
Yeah. And it can be a slippery slope. I agree with that.

Eva (24:30):
Yeah.

Kami (24:30):
There was, I think we've talked about this before, but there's a documentary called Digital Addiction.

Eva (24:37):
No, I haven't seen that one. I have to read this book by, I think Jonathan Turley. No, Jonathan Haidt, H-A-I-D-T. He has a really good book that everybody's reading right now about the screens, the screen problem. It's called The Anxious Generation. There's a kid's book called The Amazing Generation.

Kami (25:01):
Hang on. I'm trying to figure out what platform it's on, but it's called Digital Addiction and it's by A&E, but I can't remember where I watched it, if it was like Amazon Prime or Netflix or something. But yeah, it talks about entire families addicted to their devices.

Eva (25:22):
Yeah. I believe it.

Kami (25:25):
And this one woman, she had like three or four phones, several iPads, several laptops, one lady. I'm like, "What the ... What? Why would you ... " But yeah. And her friends are like, "Girl, you never interact with us when we go out. " She's sitting there-

Eva (25:48):
She still has friends.

Kami (25:50):
Okay. But anyways, and then there was this family and even the kid was like, "I think you guys are addicted too," because it was like, "Let's get help for the teenage boy situation." And he's like, "Y'all need help." So they kind of as a family tried to unaddict themselves from it.

Eva (26:12):
Did you ever pick up on that sort of intertwined relationship of watching a screen and mindlessly eating? Was that something you did? Because I totally did it.

Kami (26:25):
Yeah. I mean, there was times where, yeah, I just want to sit and binge something and I'll just ... Before you know it, the whole bag of chips is gone, right?

Eva (26:33):
Yeah.

Kami (26:33):
So yeah, I've experienced that.

Eva (26:35):
An entire ... Oh, man. I think they must have changed the recipe because it's not good anymore, but I used to get those Totino's party pizzas and a bottle of ranch.

Kami (26:46):
Those were very good. Yeah. My husband bought me these. He found these things at Costco. They're lemon cello covered almonds.

Eva (26:57):
Oh, yeah.

Kami (26:58):
They taste like ... Have you ever had the lemon Oreo cookies? They taste like that, but with an almond on the inside. I was like, "You're a bastard. Get these away from me. " They're so good.

Eva (27:13):
Is there a snack that I like right now? I've been making egg salad on Sunday.

Kami (27:19):
I've been doing hard boiled eggs too. I got the pre-peeled ones at-

Eva (27:24):
Yeah, I get those too.

Kami (27:25):
Costco. And so I had those with these little feta stuffed sweet peppers that come in the little plastic container in oil.

Eva (27:39):
Oh my God.

Kami (27:40):
So I have a few of those. I was like, "This is delicious." Yeah.

Eva (27:44):
I've been making egg salad on Sunday afternoon and then it'll get me to lunch, like we finished it today, so four days is about the shelf. And I just use pita bread and toast the pita bread and then it's enough lunch. That sounds good. I don't need anything else.

Kami (28:02):
That sounds really good. Yeah. I got to figure out a different-

Eva (28:05):
Excellent recipe is my, remember my favorite cookbook. What to cook when you don't feel like cooking book?

Kami (28:12):
Yes.

Eva (28:12):
Yeah. Same.

Kami (28:13):
Nice. Yeah. My husband got me the, oh God, what's his name? Dylan something is this adorable kid that does the antique recipe videos and he's like, "It's this, I don't know, some weird ass recipe from like 1972." And then he makes it and then we'll tell you if it's actually good or not. Well, he came out with these two cookbooks. So I have those. I haven't cracked into them because I'm afraid. I'm afraid to be like, "I want to make all the things now."

Eva (28:50):
I think my roommate from college was going through a thing where she was making those recipes and posting them on Facebook, like posting the results to be funny. It's very much a Gen X sense of humor.

Kami (29:02):
I guess. Yeah. It was weird because he's a lot younger than us, but not like a young, young guy, but he made the peanut butter cookies where you just have peanut butter, sugar, and eggs.That's it. That's the whole recipe. And he's like, "I don't understand how this is going to work." And I was like, "Well, you have the sugar to make it sweet. You've got the eggs to bind it. And then you've got all of the fat in the peanut butter, you're all set."

Eva (29:35):
The flavor. Yeah.

Kami (29:37):
And he was shocked that that was actually good.

Eva (29:41):
Well, have you ever read the ingredients of Frito's?

Kami (29:45):
No. No, I have not.

Eva (29:47):
Corn and oil.

Kami (29:50):
That's it.

Eva (29:51):
That is it.

Kami (29:55):
Magic is in there too. I'm convinced because they're delicious.

Eva (30:00):
Yes. And so on the subject of corn and then I have to go do a boring meeting. Trader Joe's has frozen corn ribs. Have you ever had those?

Kami (30:10):
No. What's that?

Eva (30:11):
They skin the corn. How do I even describe it? They dehusk the corn in quarters. So they're like strips of corn.

Kami (30:22):
Oh, interesting.

Eva (30:22):
And then you air fry them and they are so good.

Kami (30:26):
That does sound good.

Eva (30:27):
Yeah.

Kami (30:28):
Okay. I'll have to make a note. Well, it was good to talk to you. It was good to be back among the living.

Eva (30:37):
For sure.

Kami (30:38):
We should do this again soon.

Eva (30:40):
Okay. Deal.

Kami (30:41):
Okay.

Eva (30:42):
Okay. Love you. Bye.

Kami (30:43):
I love you. Bye.

Eva (30:46):
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