The Boss is a Drunk
Kami’s boss’s drinking problem becomes too much. Work drama is affecting her relationship with food too, and she’s trying to reset.
Eva’s prescription changes to a new formula of tirzepatide, B12, and glycine to help with air quotes “muscle fatigue.”
Eva + Kami are two old-ish moms with little kids confronting our reasons for being obese while losing weight on semaglutide and roasting our past selves. Sarcasm is our happy place.
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Co-hosts: Eva Sheie & Kami Gamlem
Assistant Producers: Mary Ellen Clarkson & Hannah Burkhart
Engineering: Daniel Croeser and Spencer Clarkson
Theme music: Old Grump, Smartface
Less of You is a production of The Axis
Kami (00:06):
What is this?
Eva (00:09):
It's like a built-in filter in my camera.
Kami (00:14):
So cute. It's so hot, so sexy. I can't see the whole word. It's like cut off.
Eva (00:21):
Oh, click the little push pin on my face.
Kami (00:26):
Oh, that's fine.
Eva (00:27):
It's totally fine.
Kami (00:36):
Oh my God.
Eva (00:41):
It's all good.
Kami (00:48):
So much to talk to you about.
Eva (00:50):
So your mom's moving in?
Kami (00:51):
I guess. Yeah, dude, so, oh, so classic, Deborah. Sorry. I just put a bunch of lotion on my face. I got sunburnt as fuck yesterday and I didn't my hair, and it's a whole thing. You're probably going to hear my neighbor's dog here in a second.
Eva (01:17):
It's okay. I'm just glad you're here.
Kami (01:18):
Yay. Me too. So God, where do I start? Oh, I quit my job. Let's just start with that.
Eva (01:26):
What already?
Kami (01:27):
Yeah, it was not great. Geez. Yeah, so he was, long story short, the owner has a drinking problem.
Eva (01:42):
Oh, I've been there.
Kami (01:43):
And I don't care that people have drinking problems. I just don't want their problems to become my problems. And so it was getting to the point where he had an appointment show up and I call him, mind you, it's 11:00 AM on Wednesday. Drunk, wasted.
Eva (02:12):
You already knew that, or you found out when you called him?
Kami (02:14):
No, when I called and I was like, where are you? Oh, yeah, man, I didn't have any appointments today. I'm looking right at it. And the girlfriend's like, well, he doesn't have any appointments today. And I had to take a photo of my computer monitor and send it to them and be like, I don't know if they were just so drunk that they weren't looking at the right day on the calendar or what. I'm like, no.
Eva (02:45):
I don't have to be drinking to do that.
Kami (02:48):
I was like, I fucking mess up my appointments all the time and I'm sober as fuck. So, okay, sure. Anyways, and that was just one of many, many things. And then the last straw was when he sent out an email about people not showing up to meetings. I'm like, okay, pot and kettle. What? I lost my mind. I was like, oh, hey, we're done. We're good. Thank you.
Eva (03:16):
Did you just quit or did you give notice?
Kami (03:19):
No, not after that shit. And it was kind of, has been a long time coming for the last couple of months, so every time I've said, oh, my job's stressful, or this is going on with my job, that's really what was going on was that I was dealing with, and then he would, so it wasn't just not showing up. It was the drunk text messages at 11 o'clock midnight and nothing sexual or inappropriate in that sense. Just the fact that he's texting me anything at that hour that I know is gibberish is like, that's the inappropriate part. And then he would
Eva (03:58):
I feel like at this stage of my life, when I see that behavior, I'm just like you, I'm like, I'm not doing it. I've been seeing this movie before.
Kami (04:10):
I know how it ends. I was married to it for 13 years. I'm good.
Eva (04:17):
Well, when was that? How many days have you been on vacation now?
Kami (04:22):
Oh, since Friday.
Eva (04:23):
Okay. Yeah.
Kami (04:25):
I mean, I'm still working. I still have clients, so I got a closing. I've got, The Debra is my client. She's my favorite client.
Eva (04:38):
Of course.
Kami (04:40):
I know. I know cuz she listens to this.
Eva (04:42):
She's the best client we've ever had.
Kami (04:44):
Yeah. So what's really funny, sorry, she's going to kill me for saying she's like blowing my phone up like she has never sold or purchased a home in her life. This is coming from a woman who used to be a real estate agent and has helped dozens, if not hundreds of people buy and sell homes. Okay. Hundreds done it a gazillion times.
Eva (05:12):
She texted me the house yesterday.
Kami (05:15):
She's like, well, there might be an issue with the AC. Well, Kami, we're just going to have to wait until we get the inspection back to figure out what we're going to do. Okay, I'm like.
Eva (05:31):
That's how it works.
Kami (05:34):
That's what's going to happen. So glad we're on the same page. Literally, she should be getting it any minute, any minute. I'm like, it's going to be in your inbox in a couple of hours. You'll be fine. It was so funny. And I'm laughing at her, and then she's laughing because I'm laughing at her and I'm like, mom, what? Oh God. It's different when it's your own house. And the truth is, this is probably going to be their last home purchase. I mean, this house has every single thing that they need to live in it for the rest of their lives. I mean, it's 2,500 square feet on one level. Where do you find that?
Eva (06:24):
Oh, yeah. Well, I have that, but that's common down here.
Kami (06:28):
Oh, it's not here at all. You can have a 2,500 square foot home and it'll be a one and a half story with a basement. So it's all broken up.
Eva (06:44):
I'm excited for them. We're a little worried that your dad's not going to have enough to do.
Kami (06:48):
Oh, no. He'll have plenty of to do. Absolutely fine.
Eva (06:52):
Okay.
Kami (06:53):
So what's interesting is that this HOA has seven homeowners. Seven houses in this one. There's the gigantic neighborhood that has hundreds of homes. You son of a bitch. My AC unit.
Eva (07:14):
It heard you.
Kami (07:16):
Yeah. It was like, oh, Kami's recording and on a phone call. Shit, hang on a second. Lemme see if I can go somewhere else. I
Eva (07:27):
Just turn it up to 80 and it'll stop.
Kami (07:29):
Yeah, I will. Just hold that thought.
Eva (07:32):
Okay.
Kami (07:45):
All right. Watch me forget to turn it on as we boil alive tonight.
Eva (07:50):
Yeah. You'll wake up at three o'clock lke sweating buckets.
Kami (07:52):
My husband will be like, we're done. Get out. Get out. Oh yeah. The seven homeowners, so there's the large community, which has hundreds and hundreds of houses, several condo communities within the huge neighborhood. Right. Huge neighborhood has a clubhouse that's stunning. Beautiful playground, gorgeous pool, tennis courts. When I was there, there was a guy that lives there giving tennis lessons to people. I was like, what is this? 1974? Who gives tennis lessons? I didn't know tennis was even a sports still. Apparently it is. So
Eva (08:32):
It hasn't been replaced with pickleball yet.
Kami (08:35):
I'm waiting.
Eva (08:37):
That's funny.
Kami (08:38):
Yeah. Somebody had to try to explain to me what pickleball was, and I was like, I don't get it.
Eva (08:42):
They're like, it's like ping pong.
Kami (08:42):
Just like ping pong but life size?
Eva (08:45):
But in life. I'm like,
(08:47):
Yeah,
Kami (08:48):
Sure. Okay. That's why I don't do any sportsy things. It's fine. Yeah. Door to door is two miles from my house.
Eva (09:01):
That's so great.
Kami (09:04):
Yeah.
Eva (09:05):
I'm excited for them and for you and for Kordelia. I just think it's going to be great for all of you.
Kami (09:10):
Well, and what's nice too, which is the bonus, which really wasn't any kind of decision making factor, but it's in her same school district. So if I ever wanted to change her bus pickup or drop off location, it could be there.
Eva (09:28):
Oh yes. The bus.
Kami (09:31):
So if I'm like, oh yeah, I'm working a real big girl job and not just whatever floats my way, I have to show up on time and clock in and out and do all the adult things, then I can drop her off there. They'll get her on the bus, and then they'll get her when she,
Eva (09:53):
That would be great.
Kami (09:53):
Yeah. So anyways,
Eva (09:56):
Okay, so let's go back to the drunks for a second.
Kami (09:58):
Oh yeah, okay.
Eva (09:59):
When you were saying that, I was like, there was that one and then that one, and I had quite a few drunk bosses. The first one used to, he would wake up so early because of the, I don't know, the alcoholism, he just couldn't sleep well.
Kami (10:14):
No.
Eva (10:15):
And so he'd get up and work from three to eight, and then we'd show up and then he'd go to the gym after we all got to work. But then he'd come home from the gym and start drinking. So that was usually mid morning and that was his cycle. And that one,
Kami (10:34):
That does sound familiar.
Eva (10:37):
And that was 20 years ago. So I know from people who still know him that he's a full-blown, never quit drinking is going to die of alcoholism kind of person, which is really sad.
Kami (10:50):
It is sad.
Eva (10:51):
He is really talented and interesting and has a family that's going to lose him to that. So
Kami (11:00):
Oh, The Debra won't stop texting me. She's like, what?
Eva (11:03):
I wonder if the dinging is going in the recording. It's super authentic. It's Debra.
Kami (11:07):
I know she's going to, you muted me
Eva (11:11):
The second time. I saw it was way worse, and this person was a binge drinker, and so we'd be out in professional situations and she would have five vodkas before dinner.
Kami (11:26):
That it, because I kind of pointed out a few things that I was like, well, getting drunk at in the middle of the day at a company event. We're not okay with that. He'll send all these weird text messages, like I was saying, nothing that kind of inappropriate, but then would email me and say, oh, hey, sorry about those messages. Those weren't meant for you. And that wasn't me texting.
Eva (12:02):
Oh, so
Kami (12:04):
Somebody else at midnight
Eva (12:05):
Wrong Kami.
Kami (12:06):
Yeah,
Eva (12:07):
It was for the other Kami.
Kami (12:10):
I was so like, so somebody has your phone at midnight on a Friday and is just blowing up all of your people?
Eva (12:23):
Plausible.
Kami (12:24):
No. No, sir. That's not.
Eva (12:25):
My husband teaches seventh grade now, but taught eighth grade for 12 years. And there was one year where this doctor, who was a student's parent, would send these gigantic manifestos to him about the child's grades at one and two in the morning with the principal cc'd. And he'd be like, is this person just obliterated? And decided to write me an email at two in the morning about her eighth grader and her science grade. That happened. There was a whole year of that doctor doing that. I think she was a psychiatrist.
Kami (13:05):
Of course. Of course.
Eva (13:07):
Yeah. Of course she was.
Kami (13:12):
That's awful. And here's the thing, I'm not an alcohol prude. I was like, I've probably got a dozen bottles of wine in my house of various ages and vintages and
Eva (13:26):
Not having them for breakfast, Kami.
Kami (13:29):
So I am like, there's a time and a place though. And it's like, I feel like, okay, I don't want to have to have a conversation with somebody and be like, Hey, just, I don't care what you do on your own time, but between eight and five, could you not consume alcohol? I'm not going to have that conversation. I'm just going to be like,
Eva (13:52):
Nope.
Kami (13:52):
I'm out.
Eva (13:54):
Well, I'm actually working on a project for a rehab facility right now.
Kami (13:58):
Oh, yeah.
Eva (13:59):
And I learned yesterday a new thing that if you have not gone to rehab yet or don't need to, you're called a normie. They referred to the rest of us as Normies, but if they've gone through recovery, are in recovery, then they talk about us as the normies.
Kami (14:15):
That's really sad. That gets me, because here's the thing, this person is minus the alcohol, an amazing person. Totally. I can't say enough good things about him. Ambitious, shoots for the stars and has the capability to take this company nationwide, 1000%, which is why I was on board, but then I'm like, okay, this is happening. That's happening. You know what I mean? And then it all started adding up to, I'm like, why is it that we do these events and none of our agents show up? It'll just be like, nobody's there.
Eva (15:04):
Oh.
Kami (15:06):
And come to find out it's because they don't want to be around him if there's alcohol involved.
Eva (15:12):
Oh boy.
Kami (15:14):
And that's why. But they don't get it. They don't want to acknowledge that's really the reason. They just think, oh, our agents don't support us. I'm like, no, they don't want to be around it. We're professionals. It's one thing I kept, I was talking with one of the brokers and I said, it's one thing if it's you take your team out to, we've got this great place called District Taps, got a hundred taps or whatever, and you pay for a round of drinks and everybody has a great time, and then we all go home. I have no problem with that. Totally down. I'll be the first one in line. But when it's, you have an event that's between, it's a 12 to three o'clock in the afternoon event for family friendly. Why are you even serving alcohol at all? It's tacky. And there were so many people that came in and I was like, oh, do you guys want to drink tickets? They're like, we're working. I'm like,
Eva (16:22):
Oh, my gosh.
Kami (16:25):
Because they were just going to have an open bar. I said, so who's going to be checking IDs? Who's going to be monitoring how much? They just thought it would just be whatever. I'm like,
Eva (16:37):
But that's that thought process. We'll have an open bar. It's going to be amazing. Everybody's going to come for the free drinks at 11 in the morning. Yeah, sure. Why not? They just think it's normal. It's not normal.
Kami (16:52):
No, but that's the thing. And that's why I was so conflicted for a while, but then I had a heart to heart with one of the brokers, or a couple of them actually, and they're like, yeah, this is just how it is here. I'm like, oh, okay. I really wish that I could tell you this was a one-off situation where, oh, every couple of months he just gets wasted and sends silly text messages and everything else is fine besides that, and we just kind of deal with it because he's such a great person and he's really going places, dah, dah, dah. Right? Nope.
Eva (17:31):
No. It's all the time.
Kami (17:38):
Yeah. But the feedback that I got from a lot of the people are like, oh, Kami, we don't blame you. We know how he is. This environment's toxic. Good for you for getting out. The way they treated you was not okay. So it's like everyone else is like, oh, yeah. You know what I mean? So I was like, oh, okay. And I sent this, the message to him, I said in there, I was like, I'm resigning. Here's why. If you want to talk about it, you can reach out to me after I get back from my vacation. I was like, I need to give this a few weeks. And then he accused me of being slanderous and defaming him. I'm like, first of all, it's not slander if it's true.
Eva (18:31):
No.
Kami (18:33):
Okay. I know what the law says. It'd be one thing if I was like, oh yeah, he's a big old racist. That would be slanderous because you're not racist. I can't say if I'm like, yes, he's an alcoholic, and he is. That's not slander. It's the truth. I don't know why that's hard for you to understand. Whatever. Yeah.
Eva (18:55):
Well, I'm glad you got out of there.
Kami (18:57):
Yeah. So now I'm on the hunt for something else, but I mean, I
Eva (19:06):
Have to tell you something.
Kami (19:07):
Yeah,
Eva (19:09):
I cheated on you.
Kami (19:11):
You did. Oh my. Tell me your sinful ways.
Eva (19:16):
On Monday, I had someone on this podcast, her name is Ashley Miller, and it came up quickly, and so I thought she was perfect for this audience, and I invited her to come tell her story.
Kami (19:31):
Oh, good.
Eva (19:31):
So we're going to have her back so you can meet her too. She was really, really great. So she's about our age. She lost 110 pounds so far. Her highest was 320.
Kami (19:43):
Oh, wow. Okay.
Eva (19:44):
And she lost it in two years. She's already had plastic surgery, but she was really open about her challenges, which included binge eating and other things that were, she was way more honest about her stuff than I usually am.
Kami (19:57):
Take notes.
Eva (20:01):
I just loved her. And so I told her that she had to come back again and tell us more later.
Kami (20:06):
Yeah,
Eva (20:06):
Yeah. Get to meet her.
Kami (20:08):
Yeah,
Eva (20:09):
She was great.
Kami (20:10):
Yeah. My food has not been, food intake has not been great because of everything going on with this whole work thing and all the anxiety that I've been experiencing, and
Eva (20:24):
You know how I switched to the vials like you have had all along what I was apparently on princess mode when they were pre-filling my syringes for me, and now I have to do it myself. And so one day I was like, well, there's still so much left in that vial. I'm going to see if I can get the rest out. And so I stuck the needle in the vial that was supposed to be done, just I felt like it, I don't know. I was being kind of impulsive and I got a little bit, maybe 10 units out, but then I bent the needle, and then I had to figure out how to unbend the needle and stick it in the second vial and get the rest out, and then stick it in my stomach. And so when I did that, then I jabbed myself in the stomach sideways, and I could see all the medication pooling started to look like a mosquito bite just under the surface of my skin. And I was like, uh-oh. So I took it out and stabbed myself again. Then I had to figure out how to massage this mosquito bite to get the medication to absorb, and it did. But then I was like, okay, not going to do that again.
Kami (21:31):
That is the wrong thing to do.
Eva (21:34):
I did many wrong things in a row, don't recommend. And then I had a follow up because everything's changing. And so I went in and I have a new prescription, which is, I think I told you last time that she was like, okay, are you sure you don't have a family history of diabetes? Are you sure you don't have a family history of heart disease? So I think she's trying to get me to say something. So
Kami (22:10):
You were picking up on that?
Eva (22:11):
Yeah, I start listing everything that everyone in my family has ever had, basically. And then she said, well, I'm surprised you haven't had any muscle fatigue. And I was like, oh, I definitely have that. So then I got prescribed a new combo of Tirzepatide, B12 and glycine for muscle fatigue.
Kami (22:33):
Oh okay.
Eva (22:33):
This is on its way, but I did also discover that Lily, which is they make Mounjaro and zepbound. We'll sell you the vial on self-pay for 499. So that is basically the same price that I've been paying, so I can get the brand name starting in August, and I think I'm going to do that to see if it works better. But that's basically where I am. But my compounded price went down a bunch. Hello?
Kordelia (23:04):
Hi, Eva. Hi Eva.
Eva (23:06):
Hi, Cordelia. Are you excited for vacation? Where are you going?
Kami (23:17):
Do you know where we're going?
Kordelia (23:18):
No.
Kami (23:20):
Have I even told you that we're going somewhere?
Kordelia (23:22):
Yeah,
Kami (23:23):
I did. Yeah, we're going to go to Washington.
Kordelia (23:26):
When?
Kami (23:26):
Yeah, we're going to see Yaya. And then
Eva (23:30):
When are you going though?
Kami (23:33):
Do you know when? No, in a week.
Eva (23:37):
What day?
Kordelia (23:38):
Yay. Yay.
Kami (23:40):
So yeah, we're going to go see Daddy's family and
Eva (23:43):
Yeah, we're going tomorrow. So I'm asking because we're going to be there till the 12th.
Kordelia (23:49):
Hi.
Kami (23:50):
Oh, I'm be there the ninth. So the 12th is, yeah, that's going to be Justin's dad.
Eva (23:57):
That's Saturday.
Kami (23:59):
Yeah, that's his birthday party thing. So yeah. So I'll fly into
Eva (24:06):
Seattle, Spokane.
Kami (24:07):
I think I fly in Spokane on the ninth.
Eva (24:11):
Okay. Lemme see if I can make it work.
Kami (24:13):
Yeah.
Eva (24:13):
I mean, not the ninth. I'm not going to invite myself to the party, but
Kami (24:17):
Well, the party's on the 12th, so.
Eva (24:19):
Oh, okay. Well, I bet we can drive up one of those days and come see you guys.
Kami (24:23):
Hell yes. Let's do it.
Eva (24:25):
Wouldn't that be fun?
Kami (24:26):
Yes. Would you like to see Eva? Yeah, me too.
Eva (24:31):
And Kari, she's the same age as you.
Kami (24:33):
She has a daughter the same age as you. Her name's Kari. Isn't that cool?
Eva (24:38):
That would be great.
Kordelia (24:41):
I will attack you with my big stick.
Kami (24:43):
No, I don't want you to. All right. Well, I think this is, it's going to be a good a
Eva (24:50):
Was a good update. Yeah. I have more stuff, but it'll wait. It's fine. Well, maybe I have to pack and I can hear somebody wailing in the other room like, they were at the waterpark all day, so they're really tired and I can tell that. Yeah.
Kami (25:09):
Yeah. We're going to wind down here shortly, too. Well, maybe if we can get together, then we can do a
Eva (25:17):
In person
Kami (25:18):
Recording for the first time ever. That'd be so cool.
Eva (25:23):
Yeah,
Kami (25:23):
I would love it.
Eva (25:25):
Okay. Well, you guys have a good rest of your week. Happy fourth and I'll, yes, hopefully. See you next week.
Kordelia (25:31):
I want to see her.
Kami (25:32):
Yeah. We will, don't worry.
Kordelia (25:34):
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