Replacing one addiction with another?

Kami (00:00):
How are you today, dear?

Eva (00:00):
Good.

Kami (00:02):
Yeah.

Eva (00:04):
Ellie had a well-check, so I had to pick her up.

Kami (00:06):
Yeah, Kordelia's got one coming up too. I don't remember what it is though. Actually, I got to call, figure that out, because she, ice cream is what she went and got. Hmm, of course. She was going to the same primary care doctor that I was, and the lady moved to Colorado. So now, I don't know. I don't know. I have no idea what's going on.

Eva (00:35):
Well, I've reached the point where I'm sort of like, I don't really want them to have any more shots. I've been reading too much stuff.

Kami (00:45):
Are you freaking yourself out?

Eva (00:46):
Yeah.

Kami (00:47):
Don't do that.

Eva (00:47):
All morning. I was like, I really need to look it up and see if she's got shots today. And so I googled it on the way to the appointment and it said,

Kami (00:56):
That's when you're not supposed to do it.

Eva (00:58):
I know.

Kami (00:58):
God. What? Why?

Eva (01:05):
So Google said she did. So the whole way I'm plotting, how am I going to say I don't want to do it today? Not never, just not today.

Kami (01:13):
Yeah.

Eva (01:14):
And it turns out she doesn't have any today. And actually when I asked that our doctor, who we love, she's wonderful. She's like, oh, they're done. They're completely done with the schedule. I'm like, fuck.

Kami (01:25):
Oh, geez.

Eva (01:27):
They got all of 'em. They already got them all.

Kami (01:29):
They already got everything they need to?

Eva (01:30):
Yeah.

Kami (01:31):
Okay. Well.

Eva (01:32):
And they're both fine, so

Kami (01:37):
I'm sure they'll be okay.

Eva (01:39):
Yeah, Ellie was extra funny. She just was putting on a show for the doctor. And when your child has a different personality than the one you usually see, you're just like, what is happening?

Kami (01:52):
Oh, yeah. Yep. Every day.

Eva (01:55):
She's here, she may make an appearance.

Kami (01:57):
Oh, that's fine. Kordelia's back there, spinning around eating ice cream before dinner. It's fine. Yep,

Eva (02:03):
Yep, yep. I did it last night and I got so sick.

Kami (02:06):
Did you?

Eva (02:07):
Yes. Yeah. You know when it is, usually when one of them accidentally gets something that they're not going to eat, and then I'm like, I'll just eat it, and it's something terrible. So last night it was McDonald's ice cream sundae with nothing on it. Just the plain ice cream.

Kami (02:26):
And that upset you?

Eva (02:28):
It was so much sugar.

Kami (02:30):
Oh yeah. Well, the sugar and the dairy probably together is not the best.

Eva (02:34):
Probably not. Probably not the greatest. And I'm having this tooth pulled tomorrow, so I had to stop my medication. I've been off now.

Kami (02:46):
How's that going?

Eva (02:47):
for two weeks. Well, I'm eating more.

Kami (02:51):
You can tell the difference, right away?

Eva (02:51):
It's really slight.

Kami (02:55):
Okay.

Eva (02:57):
But I feel like I can kind of tell my impulse to go get something to eat is sort of returning. So it's been two weeks since I've had it, and they said stay off for another week after. And I was like, why can't I just do it when I get home tomorrow? And she said, well, you're getting a tooth out. You're probably not going to want to eat. We want to make sure you're eating while you're in recovery. And I was like, oh.

Kami (03:29):
Well, that's bullshit, bit okay. Damn Doctors in their fricking advice.

Eva (03:37):
Well, I mean, who among us wouldn't take the opportunity after getting a tooth removed to go on a forced diet for a while?

Kami (03:45):
Right?

Eva (03:46):
Ooh, you remember when you'd be like, Ooh, I'm going to lose at least two or three pounds cuz I'm so sick.

Kami (03:55):
Geez. Nice. Oh yeah. The flu diet is the best.

Eva (04:01):
Yeah, that one is so good. What's your update? What's going on? I was telling your Wonder Woman story to other friends of mine. Check this out.

Kami (04:16):
Oh, Oh, I can't believe this. Did I send you the audio?

Eva (04:20):
No.

Kami (04:21):
Oh my God. Okay. So I recorded audio from the whole experience of me going into his office. Yes. And cool fun fact, in the state of Indiana, you only have to have one party consent.

Eva (04:37):
One party is the best.

Kami (04:39):
Yeah. So I put my voice notes on and put that shit in my pocket. I recorded the whole thing. It was pretty great. I'll send it to you.

Eva (04:47):
So the house is closed, obviously.

Kami (04:49):
Yeah.

Eva (04:50):
But when are your mom and dad moving in?

Kami (04:53):
Not until the first week of October.

Eva (04:55):
Okay.

Kami (04:56):
Yeah. So we're in the process. I let the painters are doing painting right now. New AC was installed. What else? Oh, internet went in painters cleaner. And then we've got the two couches that they bought are being delivered. So we wanted to get all the painting done and the cleaning done before the couches showed up. And then I have some things that I'm going to be doing for them around there, so the painters aren't doing the entire house. I'm doing the bathrooms and we're doing a little mini remodel in the powder room. So working on that because the vanity in there is the original vanity from 1975, and it's so short and hideous. So I was like, eh.

Eva (05:49):
I know.

Kami (05:49):
So we're working on that. Everything else is going great. I had to tell mom to slow down a little bit. She was texting me all of these different dining tables, and she's like, I can get this one on Facebook. I'm like, absolutely not. It's really at all, not the aesthetic that you want. And it's beat to shit. Who cares? How much? What are you doing? Are you a grownup? I'm just curious. So I was like, that's what you get when you are starting out in your first apartment or your first house. Not the last, No, we're, I'm not going to do that.

Eva (06:30):
I have one of those pieces of furniture left, and it's this very extra long blue microfiber couch. And I love this couch, Kami. I cannot let it go. It's so comfy. You can sleep on it and not complain about it.

Kami (06:50):
Oh, well. That is a huge plus, I have to be honest. Do you have a basement in your house?

Eva (06:56):
Nobody in Texas has basement except in weird rare circumstances, people who thought the world was going to end, and so they dug a bunker. They have basements.

Kami (07:09):
Oh, okay.

Eva (07:09):
There's all these weird stories about people with bunkers that you hear. They're like mythology around. They're in my world, they were stories people told at the bar. Have you ever heard about the guy in Conroe with the giant bunker? That one went around a lot.

Kami (07:27):
He had to be special or something in order to,

Eva (07:30):
I've been thinking about bar stories a lot. So this is pretty interesting. I have a new podcast that I'm working on about addiction, and I have had to think about a lot of the things about my younger self related to this topic as I've gone through working on this. Because you spend a lot of time thinking about who's the audience and who are we talking to, and why are we talking to them and how are we doing it? And this one is really not, according to my podcast customer, his name's Matt in the addiction and recovery space, people love to tell stories about how awful they were, and they one up each other with their awfulness.

Kami (08:18):
Oh, no.

Eva (08:18):
And so he was really intentional, I don't want to do that. I only want to talk about recovery in the sense that this is what I came back from. This is what I bounced back from and this is how I bounced back from it. So you're still telling the story about the things that you did, but you're not spiraling downward, if that makes sense. And I'm learning so much from him, but I also, over the course of several weeks now of many conversations and working with him and listening to him and hours of his story, I've realized that I went from drinking and smoking to eating.

(09:04):
And that, like people who are addicted to anything, once you stop using the thing, that's what this whole show is about is what is it's called Less of You because what's left of us when we're no longer doing the thing we were doing before, which for me was probably, if I'm being honest, it was binge eating and overeating just in general and being addicted to food. And then I started asking myself, well, what am I doing now that I'm not eating? And I don't know if I even want to answer it. I'm just going to let it sit there for a minute while I keep thinking about it. Why did I bring up Matt? The show is called My Last Relapse. It's not out yet, but the title is everything. So, so into it.

Kami (10:01):
That's awesome. I love it. Love it.

Eva (10:08):
Yeah. It's probably going to come up a lot going forward. I'm not talking about myself much with that group of people, my customers. But I can think about it and I can talk about it over here all I want. Sure. Yeah. I have a friend who also texted me about something I said on our last episode, and I was sort of like, oh my gosh. I said that? Oh, I know what it was, Matt. He asked me to be on his show, and at first I was like, oh, I guess I could do that. And then I thought about it all day and I was like, I can't do that.

Kami (10:49):
Okay.

Eva (10:50):
That's too many stories I don't want out there.

Kami (10:53):
Yeah.

Eva (10:54):
Way too many.

Kami (10:57):
Too much, switching subjects.

Eva (11:00):
Oh, you don't want to talk about addiction? Fine. Move on.

Kami (11:03):
I guess.

Eva (11:09):
Where do you want to go?

Kami (11:11):
I had a job interview.

Eva (11:13):
Oh, good.

Kami (11:14):
So yeah.

Eva (11:15):
That's cool. Is it a similar job?

Kami (11:18):
No, it would be working at a title and escrow company as an escrow processor. So I would be the one that would, when a new order comes in, a new purchase agreement, I would be the one to do all the processing, which means I'm ordering the seller's payoff on their mortgage and making sure that whatever is found in the title report is cleared. If, oh, I don't know, maybe the seller has a small claims judgment against them for $6,000 cuz they didn't pay somebody a commission. I have to then get the payoff for that so that it can be paid off through their.

Eva (11:57):
Oh, interesting. Or you would have to make sure that the wiring instructions were followed, that kind of thing.

Kami (12:07):
Yes, yes, yes. The closers do that mostly, but I would be responsible for notating the file and saying, Hey, these are the wire instructions. And uploading them so that they're there so when the closer comes in and signs everybody, they know what they're doing.

Eva (12:23):
Yeah.

Kami (12:25):
That kind of stuff. So

Eva (12:29):
I feel like I would like that job.

Kami (12:32):
Yeah. Well, I don't know how much it pays yet, so I'm really, it's kind of one of those things where you don't know how much they're going to pay you till they offer you the job.

(12:47):
And I'm in this office with the manager, and I want to say receptionist is not the right word for her. She's got to be an office manager or front desk manager or something. But she is the front desk person. And I got the interview because I know the woman that's there, like regional sales manager lady, and so she's in the room too, but she's back in the corner in her desk doing whatever, and then she's like, do you have any more questions? I'm like, yeah, can we talk about pay? Or is this not the right arena? Because I'm used to interviewing and knowing, okay, this is the pay range for this job, but that just isn't how it all crumbled. And she's like, well, I can't remember what she said the guy's name was. I dunno if he's an HR manager or if he's accounting or whatever. She's like, oh, you'll discuss that with him, but the benefits are this, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, okay. So, alright. We'll see. I mean, I have a good idea about what it pays. We'll see. The good news is I've lost weight.

Eva (14:01):
Oh, have you?

Kami (14:02):
A couple pounds.

Eva (14:03):
I haven't been getting on the scale. I just keep putting pants on and going, oh, I think I'm gaining.

Kami (14:08):
Yeah. No, I am down a couple pounds, mostly because I haven't been able to eat or sleep for the last two weeks. It's getting better though. I have slept pretty much all night the last two nights.

Eva (14:19):
Oh, good. So you came all the way back around to the flu diet. Right.

Kami (14:27):
It's the You shouldn't have betrayed me diet. Yeah. So yeah,

Eva (14:34):
I'm going on the pull out a tooth diet tomorrow.

Kami (14:37):
Oh boy. Please text me.

Eva (14:40):
I will text you. I have a lot of anxiety about this.

Kami (14:43):
Oh, I'm sure you do. You poor thing. Are you getting fully sedated or not?

Eva (14:50):
Yeah.

Kami (14:51):
Okay.

Eva (14:52):
I don't want to be awake for that. No freaking way.

Kami (14:55):
Yeah. I've never had a tooth pulled. I've only had a crown or a root canal and a crown and you're awake for that and you get to see it on the video.

Eva (15:02):
I shouldn't have been awake for that.

Kami (15:05):
Yeah.

Eva (15:08):
Yeah. It's supposedly like 30, 40 minutes that you're under. And most of that is just while they're getting ready and finishing up, the actual pulling out of the tooth, I imagine doesn't take very long.

Kami (15:20):
I'm sure it probably is a couple minutes because it's not going to be, it's really more about making sure you're fully sedated and the actual extraction probably takes a minute or that you got a ride home and everything.

Eva (15:33):
Yes, yes, yes, I do. Ellie's worried about me. She keeps saying she doesn't want me to go, but then today she said I could borrow her tooth fairy pillow.

Kami (15:46):
So sweet.

Eva (15:47):
I know my heart.

Kami (15:48):
Yep. Kordelia lost a tooth two days ago. We haven't put it under the pillow yet, but we'll be doing that. We'll be doing that soon.

Eva (15:59):
I got to get some work done before I run out of time and turn into a pumpkin because tomorrow I can't work.

Kami (16:06):
Okay.

Eva (16:07):
Have a good labor day.

Kami (16:08):
You too. Let me know how things go.

Eva (16:12):
I will text you tomorrow or maybe I'll make a video if I'm funny when I'm coming out. I'll tell.

Kami (16:18):
Yes, please.

Eva (16:18):
I'll tell Mary Ellen if I'm being funny to please turn on the camera.

Kami (16:23):
Just turn it on either way. And if it's good, it's good. If it's not, it's fine. Yeah.

Eva (16:27):
Capture all the content. You got it.

Kami (16:28):
Do it.

Eva (16:30):
Okay. Alright.

Kami (16:32):
I love you the most.

Eva (16:33):
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