Not-So Texas Roadhouses
Kami forgets to track her calories and take her meds. Eva sends her daughter to camp and Kami remembers getting left behind at camp at age 12, back when there were no cell phones.
Eva + Kami are two old-ish moms with little kids confronting our reasons for being obese while losing weight on semaglutide and roasting our past selves. Sarcasm is our happy place.
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Co-hosts: Eva Sheie & Kami Gamlem
Assistant Producers: Mary Ellen Clarkson & Hannah Burkhart
Engineering: Ian Powell and Spencer Clarkson
Theme music: Old Grump, Smartface
Less of You is a production of The Axis
Eva (00:00):
You got a haircut?
Kami (00:01):
Yeah. So cute. What do you think?
Eva (00:05):
I love it. I saw it on Facebook.
Kami (00:09):
Yep.
Eva (00:10):
I did the big old.
Kami (00:10):
That is a good haircut.
Eva (00:12):
Thanks. Did the big old chop, itty chop,
(00:15):
Who do you trust to even do that?
Kami (00:17):
This really great hair dresser that I'm pretty sure is autistic
Eva (00:21):
About hair like Edward Scissorhands.
Kami (00:23):
Yeah, no, I mean he's the sweetest guy. What I love about him is that he follows directions really well.
Eva (00:33):
My hairdresser just has a horrible attitude and I say things to her, can you just make it short but look long? And she'll be like,
Kami (00:40):
Well that's a shitty thing to say to a hairdresser. To be fair, you can't. That's not, so maybe you want to look internally on that, can you make it short but look long? Yeah, the hell.
Eva (01:05):
i want it to be long, but feel short.
Kami (01:08):
No.
Eva (01:08):
That's not a thing. Okay.
Kami (01:12):
So sorry for your luck. But I do this every few years where I'll just grow it out and then just chop it all off and start over. I think this time I'm going to let my gray grow out a little bit and see if I like my natural color. I, because
Eva (01:34):
What is your natural color?
Kami (01:35):
Well, it used to be dirty dishwater blonde, but I think it's lightened up. But I mean, to be honest, I haven't seen my natural color in 30 years.
Eva (01:51):
Holy cow.
Kami (01:51):
There's that. And I have a ton of gray, especially around the front, so you can see, well, I dunno if you can see on the camera, but it's all silvery in there, so it's like, eh, we'll see if I don't like it, I mean I can always change it. So how are you my love?
Eva (02:12):
Great. I am switching primary care doctors and I just hung up with her.
Kami (02:19):
Oh yeah.
Eva (02:19):
And actually when I met her, I asked her opinion about GLP ones and she was like, I'm skeptical, and I
Kami (02:31):
Oh, oh God. You're like, well, Lemme tell you a story.
Eva (02:39):
I just told her the story. So that was when she was on my podcast. That's how I met her on Meet the Doctor. And so today I had a chance to tell her, this has been my experience. I was also very skeptical. I don't necessarily need you to manage it, cuz I'm managing it elsewhere, but I can't be your patient if you're against it, that's not going to work.
(03:05):
And she said she's not against it. Her perspective has changed and she's happy to manage it with me and even prescribe it if I need it. She's not against it anymore, so I feel like that's good. And she's not my only doctor. I don't necessarily just need her, but I thought it was really positive, and I don't know if you have this around where you are, but in Austin we have a lot of fancy people.
Kami (03:34):
I hear that.
Eva (03:34):
And so I heard that there's a lot of concierge doctors now and you just pay a low membership fee, like she's $120 a month and basically for me, it's a pass to skip over all of the garbage that comes with going to the doctor, making appointments or going in and waiting in the waiting room and not seeing the doctor, but seeing some mid-level who doesn't know you and just wants to prescribe a bunch of crap. And so I think of it as a convenience fee. And so do they take your, it's the best money I spend.
Kami (04:08):
Do they take insurance too, or no, because heard of one, I know there was one that my mom had seen. She was a nurse practitioner though, and I think she didn't take insurance. You paid a subscription fee, like a monthly fee to be her patient and that was all you paid. Something like that.
Eva (04:26):
There's a bunch of stuff included in the membership fee, but she doesn't take insurance for anything. If you need something that she doesn't do, then she's going to refer you somewhere else where they do take insurance. So I think it's great. And she's actually in a better spot for me than my old one. I don't know what happened. Something happened in her personal life and she quit. She was like, I'm done. You can switch to one of my partners or find a new one. And I was like, well, you've been kind of checked out for a while, so I think that's my cue to find a new one. So yeah, that's done and off the to-do list. And we got back from a trip to Minnesota last night.
Kami (05:13):
Oh, nice.
Eva (05:14):
I haven't been on the scale in a while.
Kami (05:16):
How'd that go?
Eva (05:18):
Great.
Kami (05:19):
Did you weigh yourself yet?
Eva (05:21):
No.
Kami (05:21):
Oh, you haven't? Oh, I
Eva (05:22):
haven't. I meant to this morning. I didn't get around to it.
Kami (05:25):
Yeah.
Eva (05:27):
It's always not what I think. I think, oh my gosh, I'm back to 200 and then I'll get on and I'll be 187.
Kami (05:34):
Right.
Eva (05:35):
Have you seen that Instagram where it's like what I thought I looked like at 278 and she looks like she's 180 and what I thought, what I think I looked like at 180 and it's the opposite photo of the same person. I'm like, that's me. Now I feel like I'm 300 and when I was 300, I thought I looked fine.
Kami (05:57):
Yep.
Eva (05:59):
How are you doing?
Kami (06:00):
I'm good. I had a little bit of a setback. I've gained back four pounds, so I weighed myself yesterday or the day before and I was 199. I'm like, god dammit. But the truth is I got out of the habit of recording my calories and taking my ADHD medication, which I've talked about before. It helps with, it has appetite suppressant in it or the ingredients. I don't know how it works. I just take it and it's supposed to work and I think there was one week where I didn't dose myself, so I was like, oh. And I was like, why am I so hungry? What is happening? I'm like, oh, Kami, you idiot.
Eva (06:52):
Yeah, you got to remember to take it.
Kami (06:53):
Yeah, or else it doesn't work. Isn't that weird? But I'm good. I'm kind of struggling with some things at work and it's a whole thing. I can't really get into the,
Eva (07:08):
Well you were kind of off the nine to five for a long time, weren't you?
Kami (07:11):
Well, I, yeah, I worked with this company and I was laid off and then I basically didn't really work, didn't work for a year and got on and I went and got my real estate license in Indiana and I'm with a real estate firm and I'm their office manager and it's just a lot of moving parts and I just don't know if it's really going to be the place for me long term, but I'm essentially going to stick with it through the summer and in August I'll probably reevaluate what I want to do, but it's fine. I've got my mother-in-law here visiting, so that's been fun. She's great. She's been taking Kordelia to the pool and having in-home childcare has been a dream, so that's been great. I was like, Hey, I got to go yesterday. I had to go show a couple properties 50 miles away or whatever, and so she was able to be like, oh sure, I'll take her to the pool or whatever. So that was really cool.
Eva (08:39):
Are you doing two jobs?
Kami (08:41):
So essentially I'm working five hours a day as the office manager, but then I'm doing some of my own real estate stuff. I mean, I'm not doing a gazillion transactions, but I do have one that's probably going to be closing in the next couple of weeks. I've got a lease option purchase kind of thing coming up next year I might be listing another property. So I've got some stuff going, but it's not like a full-time income.
Eva (09:25):
I'm in a bit of a reset mode and I have been making a lot of changes around what are we working on over here. And so I basically paused everything that wasn't customer related. I just looked at all of it and said, if this is for a customer, we're going to keep doing it. And if this is for us, other than this show, this is the only one that we're still, we are great at making podcasts that we make a lot of podcasts, but not all of them are being paid for. So we just press pause on all the marketing ones that we're doing that aren't for customers. That's given me a lot of peace around my schedule and how busy we are and really liking it. The slow down, it's good timing for summer.
Kami (10:11):
So I'm just choosing to be not stressed and it's a weird mindset because you have to make the conscious decision that all these things that you don't have any control over, I've just decided it's not going to bother me. You have to just do that. And I know it's so much easier said than done, especially if you've got anxiety, depression, ADHD, it's rough, right? Because sometimes your brain just spins out and you don't really have any control over it. Right.
Eva (10:54):
Well, last time I saw you, you were talking about your sleep study, did you get the results?
Kami (10:59):
Oh my God. So that's still a challenge because the sleep study that I had, and I can't remember, did we talk about this where I said that it wasn't to diagnose me?
Eva (11:14):
Yes, you did.
Kami (11:15):
So I still have not had a resolution to that. It's been a challenge, but I've had so much other stuff going on with work that got, again, I'm putting everybody else's needs before my own health. So that's a lesson to all of y'all. Don't do it. I have to stop giving a hundred percent of me to everyone else. It is so difficult when you're a people pleasing empath. So it's, it's like compulsion. I understand how people are like, I just can't stop. I've got OCD and I'm like, yeah, my OCD is making everybody else happy and ignoring my own needs.
Eva (12:15):
Your Thanksgiving menu just popped into my head.
Kami (12:18):
Oh yeah.
Eva (12:22):
There's this amazing person at my church who runs all the women's programs and a year ago she sat all of us down, any of us who help out with anything, she just brought in breakfast. She sat us all down and she said, listen y'all, I'm going to tell you right now, don't do too much. Here's what you're doing. When you do too much, you are saying to everybody else that they can't help and they can't host and they can't lead if they don't do it like you do it, so dial it down, all of you. I'm asking you right now, dial it down. And I was like, I never thought of it that way. I just think I'm being extra, cuz I'm extra. And ever since she said that, I have been way less extra. I've just been like, yeah, my house is a mess, but I'd rather that you're here than think that I'm perfect. It's more important to me that you're here and we're having a good time than you think, Wow, look how everything in this house has its place and a label on it.
Kami (13:26):
Right? Let's lower those expectations. Yeah, a hundred percent.
Eva (13:37):
One of our listeners, probably our most loyal and favorite listener, whose name starts with an M, she said something about what you had said about sleep apnea was really, really important for everyone to understand. And so with the changes to compounding and we're all sort of having to jump through hoops, especially if you want insurance to pay for your medication, to cover your medication, that there are conditions that make it easy for insurance to approve you for weight loss medication. And one of them is sleep apnea.
Kami (14:14):
Well, that's interesting.
Eva (14:16):
I thought that was useful. And so I remember at my last appointment, my provider was like, are you sure you don't have a family history of diabetes or heart disease or she was listing all this stuff and I was looking at her, do you need me to have a family history of that? And she said, well, she's kind of like, I was like blink once for yes and twice for no.
Kami (14:45):
Is there a code I should know? What are we doing?
Eva (14:51):
It's really funny, but if you suffer from sleep apnea and it's weight related, that's actually really easy. I guess my understanding now is that that's an easy one to relate to getting the prescription approved.
Kami (15:05):
Interesting. Okay,
Eva (15:06):
Here's your useful info for the day.
Kami (15:08):
Yeah, I might have to look into that.
Eva (15:14):
Did you get new insurance when you got your job?
Kami (15:17):
No, it doesn't.
Eva (15:19):
No. Are you on your husband's?
Kami (15:21):
Yeah. Yeah. I mean this is like me too part-time hardly pays anything. It's just, yeah, and there's some things going on in the background that I am not a hundred percent okay with. I mean, nothing illegal, please, nothing like that
Eva (15:41):
At work?
Kami (15:41):
Yeah. So maybe I'll dive into those details probably at another time because it's still kind of all up in the air, but it's not like, oh, shady realtors are being all weird. No, it's not that
Eva (16:00):
Realtors doing shady things?
Kami (16:02):
I know, right? No, it's nothing illegal. It's just some personal choices that some people make.
Eva (16:10):
Are they putting out forthcoming soon signs too early or
Kami (16:16):
No, but you better. Well,
Eva (16:18):
I got a real estate joke in my pocket here and there.
Kami (16:21):
Are they good? No, no, they're not doing that. They did just change the rules about that here, but well, what is it? A day, 24 hours so you can put your listing into not coming soon, but they call it pre-market status where you're basically just telling everyone that it's a coming soon, but you can't put the sign in the yard. You can't start really advertising it until it's active on the MLS. I'm like, okay,
Eva (17:00):
Here it's 24 hours, you can put the sign up, the coming soon sign up. But we were looking at this, we were about to make an offer on a house in April. Is April, and the only reason we knew about it was because our agents were in the same office and my agent got really upset with this agent. She put it up like five days early and then they got a bunch of drive-bys and we lost, lost our early advantage. And I'm sure something went on behind the scenes that she didn't tell me because she was like, we're not putting this offer in until Monday, and it was like Thursday or something. And I said, okay. And after that we just decided we weren't going to offer at all. So someday I think she'll tell me what happened, but I trust her so much that I was like, I'm fine. We don't need to move right now. It needed a lot of work. I wasn't into it.
Kami (17:57):
Yeah. There was a situation we were talking all about recently where there was one of an agent within whatever office it was sent an email out to all the other agents within the brokerage saying, Hey, I am going to be listing this property just an FYI heads up. And there were two agents within the agency that had buyers for that particular type of property. One of them just wrote up an offer and submitted it right away, and the other one, why wouldn't you? Well, the other one thought that I'm going to do the right thing and wait until it's active to put my offer in. And then it was the question of what's the ethical thing to do and who was more right. You know what I mean? So at least with our MLS was a little bit of a gray area and the second agent made a complaint about it because should they have done that? Should they have just all waited for it to be active the next day or whatever? But she felt like
Eva (19:23):
Was the problem that the seller accepted it early and then they didn't even have a chance?
Kami (19:27):
Yes.
Eva (19:29):
Okay. Well, I don't know. I don't feel too sorry for the agent who didn't do anything.
Kami (19:36):
Yeah, but the question is what was the right thing to do? Was it totally okay? And the second agent, just early bird gets the worm kind of thing and she lost out, or should that first agent.
Eva (19:51):
Did the listing agent say, we'll accept offers until this moment in time?
Kami (19:57):
No, I don't think so. I dunno. I mean, that's just all I know. So I'm like, okay, well anyhow,
Eva (20:08):
I do love this stuff though.
Kami (20:18):
So how are your kids?
Eva (20:22):
They're good. Kari's going to overnight camp from Sunday to Thursday for the first time ever.
Kami (20:28):
Oh my gosh. Overnight camp.
Eva (20:31):
Yep.
Kami (20:31):
I remember we did some of that as a kid. How old is she now?
Eva (20:37):
I'm excited for her. She's seven, but she's getting close to eight. She's the closer to eight.
Kami (20:42):
Oh she's the same age as Kordelia? Oh, okay.
Eva (20:47):
Yeah, she wanted to go. I keep being like, are you sure you want to go, please don't. I've never been away from you for this long. I don't like it.
Kami (20:57):
Yeah, yeah. Well, there's been several times where Kordelia's been with my mom for a week or more or Justin and I had to go out of town together and my sister, she was with my sister for five or six days. So for me, I wouldn't be worried about, oh, she's not going to be at the house, she's not going to be with me. It would be like, where is she? Who's she with? Who are the other kids? Who's going to manage this? If somebody loses their mind, what if she wakes up in the middle of the night and she wants me? You know what I mean? I would worry about all of that, not her not being with me. You know what I mean? I dunno.
Eva (21:44):
It's church camp and her regular babysitter is a counselor, so she's going to be there with her and then there's tons of adults, tons. The ratio is one adult to every four kids.
Kami (22:00):
I remember when I was like 12, I was at a church camp thing outing. I don't know if it was, I don't think it was an overnight thing. I think it was a day thing and all got on the bus and there wasn't very many kids that went to this particular event. Usually it's like, oh, you got 50, 60 kids. There's only a dozen of us, and they left me at the campground.
Eva (22:31):
What?
Kami (22:34):
I told one of the guys, so everybody was getting on the bus and I told one of the guys, I was like, I have to go to the bathroom. I'll be right back. They were like, okay. So they were like, there's so few kids, they didn't bother even doing a headcount. And I come out of the restroom and there they are a quarter mile down the street when the bus and I'm running and I'm waving and I'm like, so I was like, well, so here I am 12 years old in this campground with nobody. The only reason that they even turned around is because one of my girlfriends that I was friends with was like, you guys where's Kami?
(23:18):
And then they had radio, so there was a van, so they had all the kids in the bus and then there was a van that had all the supplies in it, food and all that stuff, and the van came back and got me. I just sat there.
Eva (23:32):
Wow.
Kami (23:32):
Yeah, it wasn't very long. It was like 20 minutes.
Eva (23:35):
That's really scary stuff when you're 12.
Kami (23:38):
Yeah, I was like,
Eva (23:39):
And there were no cell phones.
Kami (23:41):
No, this would've been nineteen ninety two, three.
Eva (23:47):
That's such a nineties story. Yeah. Speaking of the nineties, I was in my hometown all weekend in Minnesota and it's grown so much since I lived there. It's way more dense, lots more stuff. One of the things they added since the last time, well since I lived there, is a Texas Roadhouse. Do you guys have that?
Kami (24:13):
Yep, I got one right down the street.
Eva (24:15):
Okay. Well, this is my first time in Texas Roadhouse because I live in Texas, so why would I go to Texas Roadhouse? That makes no sense.
Kami (24:24):
Okay.
Eva (24:25):
Alright. Well, we were kind of hungry. We just really wanted a break from being in the house and Kari was gone at my sister. So we took Ellie to Texas Roadhouse with a couple coloring books and I couldn't believe it. It was like the entire town was there at Texas Roadhouse and everyone was, it's the hottest joint town having a good old time. They're dancing, they're doing Footloose. There is a guy on a rolling around on a saddle with wheels riding around the restaurant.
Kami (24:57):
They don't have that at our Texas Roadhouse. So
Eva (25:01):
It was like, is this what Minnesotans think Texas is like?
Kami (25:05):
Probably.
Eva (25:05):
So funny.
Kami (25:09):
Some caricature of the state.
Eva (25:14):
It was really funny. So yeah, that was a good moment.
Kami (25:20):
Oh, that's funny.
Eva (25:20):
Now I can say I've been to Texas Roadhouse, but in Minnesota and they actually had a six ounce steak, which I thought was cool. They had a really small steak option, and so I had that. I felt sick, I ate too much, I ate too fast. I felt sick. There was something else last week I had Whataburger. It was the only thing. I had taken Kari to a party and dropped her off for a couple hours. So then I wandered around Target and I was hungry and I just ordered a burger and they accidentally gave me the fries. Even though I said I don't want the fries, they still gave them to me. So what did I do?
Kami (25:58):
You ate 'em?
Eva (25:59):
I ate 'em. I was so sick. Kami?
Kami (26:03):
Oh no.
Eva (26:04):
I don't know if it was the fries or the burger, but I'm guessing it was the fries.
Kami (26:08):
Oh, weird. Were they extra greasy or anything?
Eva (26:12):
They were kind of greasy. They were still crispy, but my body just is not used to that fat content, I guess. Who knows? I won't be going to Whataburger again.
Kami (26:29):
I've never been there.
Eva (26:33):
Well, it used to be my thing. There was one by my apartment when I lived in Houston and it was the only thing open in the middle of the night, and so I'd leave the bar and roll through that Whataburger a couple times a week.
Kami (26:46):
Oh my gosh.
Eva (26:50):
Yeah.
Kami (26:51):
Crazy. Well,
Eva (26:57):
Anything else you want to add? I think we got a pretty good update in there.
Kami (27:01):
Yeah, I don't know. I'd like to go take a nap. Can I add that? Okay.
Eva (27:08):
Yeah. Good idea.
Kami (27:09):
No, I don't know if I'll be, I'm really now I'm trying to logistically think if I actually can, but I'm like, I got stuff to do and I got to go back to the office. We have a career night tonight that kind of helps people understand how to become a real estate agent and that kind of stuff.
Eva (27:29):
Why would you want more of them?
Kami (27:31):
Well, it's a whole thing anyways. I already committed to it, so I feel like, okay, now I got to do it. It's all good though.
Eva (27:49):
Well, audience, we always love hearing from you. What do you want to find out from us next? I always have on the back burner that we need to bring some experts in to ask tough questions too, so I know that I'm working on that. What would you like us to ask the experts?
Kami (28:05):
Yes, listener questions.
Eva (28:08):
I know just because I talked to my own doctor today, I am worried about maintenance. I'm worried that she's going to tell me I can't stay on it, so I'm always worried they're going to take it away from me. Don't take my drugs.
Kami (28:18):
Yeah. I got, speaking of doctors, I got a letter that my primary care physician's moving to Colorado.
Eva (28:25):
Oh bye.
Kami (28:26):
I'm like, girl,
Eva (28:29):
You got to find a new one.
Kami (28:30):
Yeah, well, I'll probably go with somebody else in her office, but I was like, girl, you've been my doctor for five years. This is, so I was like, okay, well I better go have my visit and get all my prescriptions renewed so that I can figure out who I'm going to go to.
Eva (28:46):
Well look around. I mean, you have enough stuff going on. That concierge might be really helpful if it was affordable enough. When mine started, she was only $80 a month and the convenience was outstanding.
Kami (29:01):
Okay, well I'll look into that.
Eva (29:05):
Okay.
Kami (29:06):
Alright friend. Well, it's good to talk to you as always.
Eva (29:11):
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