I took a 4 week break from semaglutide and here’s what happened

Kami (00:00):
So it's been a hot minute. What happened to us last week?

Eva (00:05):
Well, I don't remember last week.

Kami (00:06):
I don't remember. I dunno. It was our normal day and I just was doing a whole bunch of shit around the house, and then I was like, Kordelia was getting home from school, and I was like, well, I guess we're not going to record today. Eva never messaged me, so she's probably busy too. And that's how that went.

Eva (00:32):
That's probably what happened.

Kami (00:33):
Yeah,

Eva (00:34):
Actually I didn't have a great week last week.

Kami (00:36):
You didn't? Why?

Eva (00:37):
No, no. One thing I like about being much older, older, keep getting older is that I actually know myself pretty well. And so I was in a bit of a valley after something really big happened and I understood why it was happening. So I kind of was just like, whatever, I'm just going to move through it. But it was something I was working on and it was really challenging and the person that I was working on it with and for ghosted me for five days. And so I was checking in every morning as the conscientious, diligent project manager that I am and hearing nothing, nothing. So this happened between Friday and Tuesday or Wednesday even. Yeah. And then by Wednesday at lunch, I just was having an absolute meltdown. So I had to work my way through that and then I kind of crashed afterward. Well, that's shitty. Well, you know what the cool part is though? When something like that happens, it puts the relationship in the correct place. So if I'm trying too hard or working too hard or putting too much forward and something like that is happening, then I can recalibrate and kind of put it in the correct box.

Kami (01:55):
It's all a learning life lesson, babe. So I have a little bit of an update. I went off the medication for about four weeks because we were talking about that last time and I restarted. So I learned a couple of things. First of all, it took a while for the hunger to come back. And it wasn't until about the fourth week going into the fifth week that I was like, oh my God, this is what it feels like to be hungry. And it was an exquisite experience, I'll have to tell you. I was like, this is the best feeling in the world.

Eva (02:42):
Did you go out to eat? What did you do?

Kami (02:44):
Well, I just was, it just was, I had been so not feeling that for almost two years that I was like, it just feels good to be hungry, let me tell you. Because was like, oh, I know what I want to eat and yeah, this sounds good. And no, that I was more decisive about what I wanted to eat. It was just bizarre. Totally weird.

Eva (03:09):
That's so wild to me because I'm terrified of getting hungry. I don't want to be hungry ever again. Not, ever.

Kami (03:14):
No, it was like, I was like, oh, actually it was like I could enjoy food and I remembered, oh, this is what it's like to eat for the joy of it and not just for sustenance. And to me, that's a great feeling. I'll be honest. I love it. I love it. So that was really nice. And then I was like, okay, well it's time to get back in the saddle. And so it all went away. It was funny, Justin bought these amazing pastries from Costco. They're like, they're the danishes with the cherry filling or the cheese filling. And I remember thinking, I was like, I better eat one of those cherry danishes before. I'm just not going to enjoy it. I was like, romancing this fucking Danish. It was so dumb. So yeah, so that was cool. But the real aha moment for me was that I realized that I was thirsty. Not only does the medication make you not hungry, but for me it makes me not thirsty either.

Eva (04:28):
Really?

Kami (04:29):
Which is dangerous, right?

Eva (04:31):
That's weird. I'm super thirsty.

Kami (04:33):
Yeah, no, not at all for me. So I'm like, this is why I'm having a hard time. I thought it was like an A DHD thing where I was like get so distracted and so hyper-focused on whatever that I just wouldn't drink water all day and then I would be dragging ass and feeling shitty. And when you're staring down the barrel of menopause, it's like you can't just not drink fluid at all. So I'm definitely going to be way more cognizant of that now that I'm aware that that's happening as far as drinking water or because I've been drinking decaf, iced tea, whatever, I'm hoping to have more success. I am down. So I think the lowest I got was 1 95, and then I'm back up to 2 0 5. But I was, before I restarted, I think I was up at 2 0 9, so I'm down two or three pounds and it probably just is because water weight, I don't know. So yeah, that was my big update epiphany.

Eva (05:50):
Were you off the meds for Halloween? So you got

Kami (05:54):
No, actually no, I take that back. No, I took my shot the week before. I can't remember now. Oh my god, I can't remember.

Eva (06:02):
So you ate Halloween candy or did not?

Kami (06:04):
Oh yeah. Oh hell yeah. And oh, you know what I did that was so fucking great. I went to a candy and wine pairing class.

Eva (06:17):
Ew.

Kami (06:17):
Okay. It sounds weird, but let me tell you how fucking great it was. Okay, so this winery, and this is like, there's levels of winery, levels of bougie, and this is probably on a bougie scale, seven or eight. Oh, look at my handsome boy back there.

Eva (06:42):
He's going to jump in the trash can.

Kami (06:43):
Yeah, don't throw yourself away, buddy. Yeah. So I don't want to say, okay, pair all Riesling with Sour Patch kids because I don't know if that's going to work. But this particular Riesling, I don't know the name of it, so sorry. And Sour Patch Kids. I love the look on your face right now is so it was really good. And so I got that Riesling and I also got the cabernet that you pair with Reese's because it gives you this peanut butter and jelly kind of aftertaste.

Eva (07:25):
Okay, I can see it.

Kami (07:26):
I mean, here's the thing. You're not hoovering all the candy in your mouth and guzzling the wine. I mean you're doing it a varying,

Eva (07:34):
No I got you. This is me with, there's a certain kind of olive that I like to eat with a certain kind of almond at the same time.

Kami (07:42):
Okay, well I really am not an olive person, but I can imagine that that would be good.

Eva (07:48):
Yeah. So I'm following you. I gotcha.

Kami (07:51):
It was kind of amazing because they had, we tasted six different wines and a port. I don't like port some people, I think it's a love hate thing. Either you're into it or thing. It's disgusting. So we'd also did cheese too, so all the different candies and then the different cheeses.

Eva (08:14):
That's pretty fun.

Kami (08:15):
It was really great.

Eva (08:16):
I don't think I could drink wine or eat candy. And I will admit, well, there's two things I ate a lot of. One was this skinny dipped dark chocolate peanut butter cup, and they're just awesome. They only have two grams of sugar and there's no weird stuff in it. There's not a bunch of sugar alcohol. You know how sometimes

Kami (08:36):
Or that xylitol shit?

Eva (08:38):
Yeah, there's no artificial sweetener. It's just a really good, really good, it doesn't make me sick to eat.

Kami (08:44):
I was like, did it make you shit your pants?

Eva (08:46):
No, there's nothing in it. It's just chocolate and peanut butter. It's just really good. Dark chocolate.

Kami (08:51):
What are going to say Buddy?

Eva (08:53):
I was talking about them and somebody like, oh, it's God, I have sugar alcohol. And so I came back home and looked and I was like, Nope, it truly just has two grams of regular old sugar, so those are great. But then I thought, well that's dark chocolate. So is mounds. I'll just eat some mounds. No, that didn't happen. You couldn't do it. I can't eat any of the refined. I was trying to make the kids pay the candy tax and I couldn't eat any of it. So it's all got to go. It's all going to get tossed.

Kami (09:26):
Yeah. I went over to my girlfriend Laura's house, and she lives in a newer neighborhood and she has established herself as the jello shot house. So everybody in the neighborhood knows when they come trick or treating, the adults are going to get jello shots and the kids are going to get full-sized candy bars. This is serious. And there's decor everywhere. It's like a whole thing. So I proceed to do way too many jello shots, plus I'm drinking wine. I get trashed on jello shots. So I was like, it's, I'm 21 and it's fine. I mean, this house is a five bedroom house. It's huge. There's plenty of places to crash or whatever. So Cordelia and I spent the night Justin was working. Oh yeah, my parents came too. It was pretty great. But they left and I was like, yeah,

Eva (10:24):
Your mom didn't sleep over.

Kami (10:25):
No, she did not. She didn't do any jello shots either.

Eva (10:28):
I got to show you something funny. So as long as we've been on the meds, I've been taking this magnesium right here, which I love. It's kind of like candy. And actually, if I'm like, I want candy and I just eat two of these, then I don't want candy anymore.

Kami (10:42):
Okay, yeah. I do that with all my vitamins are gummies and it's like my little,

Eva (10:48):
They're like a treat. Well, okay. So I finally went to the doctor and she was asking me about all the supplements and everything that I take, and she was like, well, that one's not really doing anything. And I said, but I like it. And she said, well then keep eating it, but just add the other magnesium, the glycinate. So I added, and this is a one day I turned on blur. It was not a great idea. It doesn't matter. So now I have magnesium glycinate plus magnesium citrate and magnesium maleate. They don't conflict with each other. Plus you can't OD on magnesium. It's not a thing. I dunno. I've always taken vitamin for a couple of years now. I've always taken vitamin D, but I take this K two with D three and I'm not a supplement person. This was a lot of work for me to get in this habit. I just kind of don't think it's real.

(11:48):
And then I take vitamin C every day and vitamin A, because I read somewhere it helps with lax skin. So I was like, well, if that's true, then it's not going to hurt me. And so then the only thing she had me add was a Omega-3. These guys, look how big they are. I cannot,

Kami (12:11):
Oh damn.

Eva (12:12):
They're way too big. So I might have to find a different one. But anyway, then the other day I was scrolling on Instagram and I saw a post that was pretty much someone bragging that they're in perimenopause, but they don't even know because they're taking this combo of magnesium vitamin D and vitamin C and omega threes. And I was like, holy crap. That's what I take. And also, I have noticed since I added, I mean, what did I add that wasn't here before? The only thing I added that wasn't here before was the magnesium glycinate. I have felt so much better.

Kami (12:52):
Really?

Eva (12:54):
A month maybe I sleep great along with I got rid of a blanket, and so I don't get too hot anymore.

Kami (13:04):
I still am battling the night sweats, but it's because I'm grinding my teeth.

Eva (13:11):
Oh, that's still,

Kami (13:12):
Yeah. So it was not getting better. I had my dentist appointment last week, my regular cleaning, and I was like, yo, this is ridiculous. And they're like, well, I even brought the night guard that I'm using. So I was like, you can see if it's just not working, my tooth is still really sore back here. And they're like, yeah, you're going to need a custom guard. And I was like, I fucking figured.

Eva (13:41):
I knew you were going to say that.

Kami (13:43):
Yeah, so I got scanned for it yesterday, so they will send it off. It's going to cost me $500. I was like, well, if it gives me some relief, and it's the nicest dentist office, they're like, if you need to do a couple of payments, that's fine.

Eva (14:04):
Oh, that is nice.

Kami (14:06):
And I was like, well, you guys are awesome. Thank you. I mean, I've been going there for years. So I was like, okay.

Eva (14:11):
My tooth is gone. Right? Remember?

Kami (14:16):
Yeah.

Eva (14:16):
I have a very big hole. And it's finally, almost closed up. It took a long time and I still have another two months before I go in to have him check it.

Kami (14:28):
Oh, really? That seems like a long time for that

Eva (14:32):
To, how long does it take bone to regenerate?

Kami (14:35):
I don't know.

Eva (14:37):
I don't either.

Kami (14:37):
Six or eight weeks. So yeah, four months.

Eva (14:40):
Yeah. Yeah. So there's that actually for the first time in my life, feel like the supplements do help and that they're not fake.

Kami (14:49):
No, they're not. And I take all that stuff too. The only thing I don't do, which I did for a long time, and I got out of the habit was the omega threes, which I do have some. I just need to start taking it again.

Eva (14:59):
The one I still need to add is creatine, but it's hard to deal with. I don't have a routine for that. I can't have it stack it, all this other stuff. I already had a habit because of, I like the magnesium chewables. And so then I was like, well just add this other stuff. So it wasn't like I had to come up with a new routine, but creatine is weird.

Kami (15:19):
And what does creatine do for you? I've only know of it being used for people that are like, it's supposed to help you recover after workouts, right?

Eva (15:27):
Yeah. That's what it used to be.

Kami (15:30):
But is it for other things?

Eva (15:31):
Now they're saying it has to do with hydration. It supplies energy to your muscles and promotes brain health and prevents dehydration. That's probably the best part. So one day at lacrosse, car head lacrosse, there's a very, very muscular woman there, and someone was asking her supplement questions. And so they actually were talking about creatine that day. And it turns out she's a fitness influencer. These are jobs in Austin, apparently.

Kami (16:07):
Alright, all right.

Eva (16:08):
Yeah. So did I write it down? I must have, because I write everything down. I can't remember anything. Same. I just have to go back and look and see what she said. But what's funny about that is I follow her. Now, I'm not going to say who she is because what I'm going to say is maybe not very nice, but she's so muscular that I think she took it too far. And she's not a bodybuilder. She's just really fit, but there's nothing soft on her body left. So she I think looks much older than she should.

Kami (16:45):
Oh, I see what you mean. She's too cut. Not enough body fat. Well, we don't have that problem.

Eva (16:52):
No, I don't have that problem yet. May I be so lucky? Yeah. So I have another cool update from, yes, Wednesday morning. So Kari had Greek goddesses and God's wax museum. Have you done the wax museum thing with Kordelia?

Kami (17:09):
No.

Eva (17:10):
It's usually a second or third grade thing. And so they all dress up as a character from history. And in this case, because we go to a classical school, it was Gods and Goddesses. So she was Hippolyta warrior queen of the Amazons. She had to come up with her own costume and she had to write a little speech, like three sentences. And if you walk up to her and tap around the shoulder, she comes to life and she gives her speech.

Kami (17:33):
Oh, that's such a cute idea.

Eva (17:34):
So she had a shield and a spear and a crown, and she had bulletproof wrist guard.

Kami (17:41):
Very Wonder woman. I love it.

Eva (17:43):
Well, and in fact, Hippolyta is Wonder Woman's mother. So in the universe, that's who she is, is Wonder Woman's mom. It was actually not that hard to find cool costume pieces. You could just use the ones that didn't look too wonder. Everybody's there at school. I know a lot of people from school. There's a ton of crossover just from church, school, other things we do. And one of my friends was standing by me and she said, I just love how you dress. You always look so put together.

Kami (18:16):
Who the fuck are you talking to?

Eva (18:19):
I'm looking around. Well, she only sees me at church.

Kami (18:27):
Okay, so she's seen you and you're like,

Eva (18:30):
She sees me on the one day a week where I put something together.

Kami (18:34):
Oh, that's so cute. You're like, sorry for the misrepresentation. So sorry that you got this impression.

Eva (18:43):
I almost cried Kami because no one in my whole life, ever in my entire life, 49 years has ever said they like my style. What?

Kami (18:56):
Oh. Eva? Okay.

Eva (19:01):
That's a huge win.

Kami (19:04):
Yes, of course it is. People tell me that all the time. But I'm happy for you.

Eva (19:09):
Well, your style, you've always had a style regardless of your size. I, I went from my style being like high school to hiding, and then I didn't know what it was and I had to figure it out. But

Kami (19:23):
You know what? That little self-discovery is so cool and so freeing and liberating, and you're like, I don't have to hide. I can be who I am. I can, just so everyone knows, I still wear all the clothes that you sent me because they're all cute. All the jeans fit me great. You know what I'm saying? So you've got it going on. You know what you're doing. It's what I mean.

Eva (19:53):
Yeah. But jeans are jeans.

Kami (19:54):
Yeah. But I'm telling you, they're not all created equal.

Eva (20:02):
Well, this whole conversation was really punctuated by a long stretch of body dysmorphia because two weekends ago I went to a wedding and I had about three weeks to figure out what to wear to the wedding is in Phoenix, so it was warm. And I shopped and shopped and I ordered. I must have tried it on between 20 and 30 dresses. It was so much work.

Kami (20:26):
That's too much.

Eva (20:27):
And nothing, even on the day that I left, I flew with two dresses and I put one on and I couldn't stand it in the hotel room. And so I went to the black dress, which was technically a little too big. And then I just kind of gave up. I know, I know rationally. No one cares what I am wearing. No, I didn't feel good in any of it.

Kami (20:53):
And you have to feel good or you're not going to, you know what I mean? That's going to come across.

Eva (21:01):
Yep. I need help with the dress thing. So I'll probably go back to that stylist that helped me a year ago and see if she can give me some advice about what to look for. Because anything, my rib cage is really large and I've kind of got a middle still, but then my legs are kind of, I don't want to even say skinny out loud, but my shape is not working with a lot of the dresses that are out there, and I don't know what to even look for, which is what made it so hard.

Kami (21:33):
Yeah. Do you wear shapewear?

Eva (21:36):
A little bit. Like minimal shapewear. And I did wear under that dress at the wedding. I wore a high wasted boy short, and I loved it. I felt really comfy and secure.

Kami (21:50):
Oh yeah. Always. Especially if it's a fancy thing, I want to feel contained. And so I usually will wear the ones that come up all the way up to here that are the shorts.

Eva (22:04):
Do you have a brand that you like?

Kami (22:06):
I think the last ones I got were Shaper Mint.

Eva (22:08):
Oh, now that you've said it, Instagram heard you. And now I'm going to

Kami (22:12):
Yeah, going to 10,000 advertisements for Shaper Mint. That's the one I like because there, it's comfortable enough to feel like you can breathe and you're not walking around like you're wearing, you know what I'm saying? And it keeps your thighs from rubbing together is pretty great. So I wear that under every single dress anytime

Eva (22:31):
I think we should sign up to be Shaper mint Ambassadors on the show.

Kami (22:34):
Oh my gosh. Yeah.

Eva (22:37):
I bet they would let us now.

Kami (22:38):
Probably. Yeah,

Eva (22:42):
Let's try it.

Kami (22:43):
Okay.

Eva (22:43):
Maybe somebody will buy some shaper mitts we said to, and then we'll get $7 in the mail.

Kami (22:52):
We could share a coffee, we could share, we could both drink from the one latte.

Eva (22:58):
That would be maybe a sixth of the coffee that I drink in a day on a good day.

Kami (23:05):
Oh God.

Eva (23:06):
This is why, I mean, I have a nespresso machine, so yeah.

Kami (23:10):
So was I working last time talking? I was talking my regular, yeah. So I had the manager order me decaf, and he's like, you want what? I was like, all of a sudden you cannot. I was like, I can have a wee bit of caffeine, but I'm on this medication. I was like, you would be peeling me off the ceiling. And so he's like, okay. So they all give me shit about drinking decaf. And then one of the guys accidentally made K-cups for the Keurig or whatever and accidentally made decaf because he just grabbed it out of the box thinking it was the regular stuff. And he was like, what the fuck is this? And it was so funny. I'm like, well, I don't know what to tell you, but I can't be doing that much caffeine.

Eva (23:54):
The only thing I do is caffeine. That's all. In Addiction and Recovery News, the project that I started a while back, I think we started in August. It's going really well. It's fascinating and I'm learning a ton. And it's really unusual at work that you get to do something that amazing. So I'm just trying to be open to whatever comes along in that work. But one of the things that he, Matt, the host of that show is called My Last Relapse, if you like Addiction and recovery stories. I highly suggest listening. He says all the time, you don't need heroin, you don't need alcohol, you don't need whatever Kratom. You don't need cigarettes, but you got to eat. And so food addiction is really wild because you have to eat.

Kami (24:48):
Yeah, it is. It's not like anything else. So it's like if you were like, oh, I do heroin. Okay, well do a little bit of heroin, but not so much of heroin you had in moderation. The fuck that is just not helpful.

Eva (25:08):
Yeah. You can't do your macros with heroin.

Kami (25:13):
Oh my God, I'm so glad I never tried those illicit drugs.

Eva (25:18):
I didn't do anything except for weed. And this was like 1998 for a few months because everyone I was hanging out with was really into it. And

Kami (25:31):
You just got right on that peer pressure train.

Eva (25:34):
I already smoked cigarettes, and actually I have one exception to the 1998, which you're going to love. So for the first half of my senior year of college, we smoked a lot. And I would say maybe a couple times a week is a lot more than I should have been for a

Kami (25:53):
Couple times a day is a lot. A couple times a week is not a lot.

Eva (25:56):
Well, it's all contextual. So around our friend groups, nobody was doing it. And then a small group of us were smoking a couple times a week or some of them every day. I wasn't doing it every day. Well, sometime in the late fall, probably right around November, I was like, I don't want to do anything. This doesn't feel good. I'm going to stop for a week and see if I feel better. And I quit for a week and I was like, I'm not going to keep doing that. It was so obvious that I was like, never. I'm never doing that again. And I really haven't, except for one time,

Kami (26:37):
This one time at band camp.

Eva (26:39):
In Seattle.

Kami (26:40):
Oh, of course.

Eva (26:42):
This one time in I was hanging out with your mom.

Kami (26:45):
Of course you were. I knew she was going to be in this story. I fucking knew it. I was like, the Debra is going to show up. Go ahead, you finish.

Eva (26:55):
Well, we had gone to the Met for dinner one night when she was in town, and I was always in town by myself. I had an apartment. And so we went and had steaks or whatever, and then we decided to walk back to my apartment. And the Debra, I think she had a vape.

Kami (27:12):
Oh, I'm sure.

Eva (27:12):
She had some right when we walked out of the restaurant. And so we were walking down the hill, it's about a mile from the restaurant back to the apartment. So it was about a 20 minute, walked a walk.

Kami (27:25):
She walked a mile?

Eva (27:27):
Okay. Because she got high, so she didn't care. So she got high when we left the restaurant and we started walking, and as we start walking, she's getting higher and higher as we're walking down the hill. And by the bottom, I was like, man, you're stoned.

Kami (27:46):
Yeah. Oh, that is so great.

Eva (27:49):
And then I think it may have been the same day, or it may have been a different day. It was probably the same day. I was like, okay, fine. Give me a little bit. And so I just had a puff and I got high for about 20 minutes, and then I was back to normal and I was like, I still don't like it.

Kami (28:08):
It still wasn't your thing. Yeah,

Eva (28:09):
No, it just is not interesting to me. I'd rather read a book.

Kami (28:14):
Well, yeah. I'd rather have the time and the ability to read a book where I wasn't interrupted 47 times and getting Capri Sun and chips and for children, that would be,

Eva (28:35):
Since we're in the book recommendation part of the show.

Kami (28:38):
Yes.

Eva (28:39):
I read an excerpt from this book called Murder Land. I think I must have seen it online. And I was hooked immediately.

Kami (28:48):
Ooh, that sounds like something I would like.

Eva (28:50):
It's true. It's nonfiction and it's a cross of geology and serial killers and Pacific Northwest history.

Kami (29:00):
Oh yeah. Well, there's lots of them.

Eva (29:03):
Her basic theory is, and is very well-researched and well-documented that the reason there were so many serial killers coming out of the Pacific Northwest was that they were all poisoned with heavy metals like lead, arsenic and other ones because there were all these smelters and the biggest one being in Tacoma. And so she

Kami (29:25):
Seriously?

Eva (29:25):
Seriously, and

Kami (29:27):
I have never heard this.

Eva (29:28):
The stuff they put into the air, the water and the soil around Tacoma. I am sure it's still there.

Kami (29:35):
Well, sure.

Eva (29:37):
But it was awful. And the companies who were putting it there had their own doctors who just denied that there was ever a,

Kami (29:45):
It's fine.

Eva (29:46):
They'd test the elementary school kids, they'd test them for lead, and they'd all have hundreds of times the limit, the safe limit. And then they'd be like, oh, it's no big deal. And so the theory is that the lead is what caused these people to all become serial killers. Ted Bundy, Green River, BTK.

Kami (30:07):
Yeah.

Eva (30:09):
And it's such a good book. It's

Kami (30:11):
Interesting. I mean, I do believe that that will definitely have an effect on your brain chemistry. However, it's probably exacerbated something that was already there. Not like, okay, if they hadn't had this thing, they would've led normal lives and not hurt anybody. No, personally. But is it a contributing factor? Probably.

Eva (30:41):
Probably.

Kami (30:42):
I mean, if that's really what was going on, do I think, yeah, that shit will fuck you up.

Eva (30:50):
It seems like it was a combo of environment, being abused as children or something,

Kami (30:55):
And it was just another facet to the whole big picture. That's wild. What's it called again?

Eva (31:03):
Murder Land.

Kami (31:04):
Murder land, okay.

Eva (31:06):
Excellent. Absolutely amazing.

Kami (31:08):
I have a book rec.

Eva (31:10):
Oh good.

Kami (31:11):
It's called Watson, a cat in the zombie apocalypse. And it's like if you had a tween that likes horror stuff, you could totally recommend this book to them because it's very, I dunno what the right word is. It's not advanced reading. So it's pretty simple. I could have just sat and read the whole thing in a couple of hours probably, but I haven't read it all yet. But it's a really cute story. I mean, it's cute in the sense that it's all from this cat's perspective and how his owner gets eaten by zombies, and now he has to figure out how he's going to feed himself. And so instead of eating his owner, he chooses to leave and then he befriends this St. Bernard. And so they're like, now they're like zombie apocalypse buddies. So that part of it I think is really cute, but then it's surrounded by all of this horror and mayhem and stuff like that. But I think it's really cute.

Eva (32:23):
We've been super into zombies four the Disney zombies movies.

Kami (32:27):
Haven't seen, we haven't seen any of those.

Eva (32:29):
They're so good. Kordelia will love them. Yeah, they're great.

Kami (32:32):
Oh, okay. I'll have to check those out. Yeah. Well, we better hop off here. I got to get my kid

Eva (32:43):
I know. It's Friday afternoon. I got to get some more real work done.

Kami (32:46):
Okay.

Eva (32:46):
And my husband's going hunting again for the third weekend.

Kami (32:49):
Is he actually getting anything?

Eva (32:52):
They did not the first weekend, then they got two.

Kami (32:55):
What's he hunting for deer?

Eva (32:57):
They were hunting for deer and they were like, well, we might shoot some hogs. So they did. They shot two hogs last weekend and then he came home with them. And when I got home with the girls that night, he

Kami (33:10):
Didn't take them to the butcher Does he dress 'em skin himself?

Eva (33:15):
Yeah, he always has. He's a redneck

Kami (33:18):
In your garage?

Eva (33:18):
In the driveway.

Kami (33:20):
Oh hell.

Eva (33:22):
So when I got home,

Kami (33:23):
You live in an actual neighborhood. You don't live in the woods where you could take your hog that you just shot into the shed.

Eva (33:33):
It's still Texas.

Kami (33:34):
Oh, I keep forgetting.

Eva (33:35):
I mean, I grew up in Minnesota where routinely I would go to Target and see a truck full of bucks.

Kami (33:41):
Okay. Yeah. I've never seen that.

Eva (33:45):
Oh yeah. You just go to the store and there'd be some pickup truck with four to eight dead deer in the back. It's called a truck full of bucks.

Kami (33:56):
Oh, that's really cute. It's really nice.

Eva (33:58):
It's been a while though. So anyway, he was getting out one of the hogs when we got home and I was kind of like, do you want them to see that? And they wanted to see it so bad.

Kami (34:07):
Oh, you know what? At that point, you know what I'd be like, sure, go ahead.

Eva (34:11):
Yeah,

Kami (34:12):
They're his kids too.

Eva (34:16):
It's not nature. I mean, what am I hiding from them? It's fine.

Kami (34:21):
I mean, no, at that point, especially if it's a part of his normal routine, he probably goes every year.

Eva (34:29):
He used to. It's a little harder to hunt here. There's no public land, so you have to put in for a permit really early and then you have to get lucky. So

Kami (34:39):
Like a lottery kind of thing?

Eva (34:40):
Yeah.

Kami (34:41):
Okay.

Eva (34:42):
Yeah. And his brother moved here a couple years ago and he has access to land, so they have been going more. But yeah, they're going again. So tomorrow we have lacrosse game in the morning. And then this is another weird one. Yesterday I was at a conference and it was local and I met a children's author there. Her name is Meredith Davis, writes kids books for eight to 12, so like tweeny ish books. And so she was telling me all about her books and then it was time to sit down, they were going to start again. And I opened my phone and the Post said, meet author Meredith Davis at Barnes and Noble. And it was another friend of mine posting about the author I just met that she was having a book signing tomorrow morning for her new book at this Barnes and Noble opening. I was like,

Kami (35:34):
Weird.

Eva (35:35):
That wasn't my phone listening. That was just straight up weird.

Kami (35:40):
Just woo. Okay.

Eva (35:43):
So on the next break, I went over to her and I was like, you're not going to believe this. So I'm going to take the girls to the book, to Barnes and Noble to meet Meredith and pick up her books.

Kami (35:54):
Oh, okay.

Eva (35:56):
And she was really curious about what does Kari like to read? And I was like, I survived because that's all she wants to read. Do you know those?

Kami (36:05):
I don't.

Eva (36:06):
Well, they're like, I survived nine 11. I survived a shark attack. I survived a volcano, an earthquake, and I survived Nazi Germany. There are all these amazing stories of people who survived from horrible things that happened.

Kami (36:23):
Alright. So we got a little true crime junkie in the works here.

Eva (36:27):
She'll pretty much read anything.

Kami (36:29):
That's awesome. Yeah.

Eva (36:31):
So that's the plan.

Kami (36:33):
Alright, well you have to let me know if any of her stuff is good. I'll go buy it.

Eva (36:37):
Oh, I will for sure. If it's good, I'll probably just make it everybody's Christmas present this year just to support her.

Kami (36:43):
I like it.

Eva (36:45):
Alright.

Kami (36:46):
Alright, girly. Well enjoy the rest of your day.

Eva (36:49):
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