I Am Wonder Woman

Kami (00:00):
I'm tired.

Eva (00:02):
You're tired.

Kami (00:03):
I'm very exhausted.

Eva (00:04):
You don't even have a job. Why are you tired?

Kami (00:07):
Well, when you have to sue somebody for the money that they owe you, it's quite exhausting. So as you know, I closed on this house, and since I am not with that brokerage anymore, the current owner is quite, butt hurt about it. So he thinks because his feelings are hurt, that he's entitled to my whole commission, which is absolutely not how that works. And he's like, well, you're slandering me. And I'm like,

Eva (00:55):
What does he listen to the podcast?

Kami (00:59):
I was like, and I said, first of all, that doesn't matter because

Eva (01:06):
Wait, wait. It's not slander if it's true,

Kami (01:08):
Right? It's not slander if it's true. So let's just get that. If you say truthful things about people not slander, it's not liable, it's not defamation. It's none of those things. So it's not, however, and it also doesn't negate his contractual obligation to me. Just because you think that I've slandered you, which has not been proven. He's never given me any evidence of it either. He's like, well, I have this screenshot of this message that says that you lied about blah, blah. It wasn't like none of that. He's just butt hurt. He just as his ego is bruised, and I'm now going to be the person that pays for it. So I had to go this morning, this is why I'm wearing my Wonder Woman t-shirt, just in case for y'all that don't watch the videos and just listen. I have a red t-shirt with the Gold Wonder Woman logo on it, and I go over to his office and I walk in and the lady at the security desk who knows me, by the way, not knows me, she's like, oh, hey, Kami, did you have an appointment? I said, no, I'm here to see Tony.

(02:33):
Well, I have to call if anybody comes in that doesn't have an appointment, okay, go ahead and call him. But I'm going upstairs and she's looking at me. I'm like, okay. So I go upstairs, the receptionist, well, his office manager is like, she's like, well, do you have an appointment? I'm like, nah. I think, actually, you know what? I think I said yes. I think I said, yeah. She's like, oh, well, I think he's on the phone. And I'm walking to his office, his door's open. There's a guy sitting in his office, which I can only assume is a potential agent that he's interviewing. And he's like, you need to leave. You need to leave. I'm in a meeting. I'm in a meeting. You need to leave. And I'm like, well, I'm not going to do that. I'm here to give you this letter that says that you owe me this money. And he's like, you've defamed me. No, you've slandered me. Okay, well, and he's like, I'm in a meeting, I was like, I don't care. I don't care. I said, you have a contractual obligation to pay me what I am owed, and this is what this is about. And as I'm trying to talk to him, he's leaving the office, leaving. Doesn't even say anything to the poor guy that's sitting in his office. Literally just left this poor guy hanging there.

Eva (04:03):
Oh no.

Kami (04:04):
And I'm like, you couldn't have even said, Hey, so-and-so guy, let me just step out of the office. I'm going to handle this. I'll be right back. Nothing. Doesn't even say anything to his office manager. Or the security lady just leaves. Just leaves and is on his phone walking down the hallway. And I'm like, you're such a coward. You can't even face me and deal with this, and you have to leave me with your employee and the security lady because you're too much of a bitch to talk to me and even say whatever. You can't just be like, you slandered me. I keep the $6,000 commission. And actually the commission was $8,500, of which according to the contract, he gets 25% plus a transaction fee, which comes to about $2,400. And so this remaining $6,000 is my money. Yeah. Couldn't just left. Just walked down the hall. You fucking coward. Can you imagine being that office manager that is not involved in this in any way? None whatsoever. But now that I had to physically hand her my demand letter, now she's involved. I didn't want to have to involve her, but now I got to name her in my lawsuit because I have to be able to say, I handed this letter to so-and-so office manager. And what's really funny is the security lady, I looked at her, I was like, he's screwing me. She's like, I know.

Eva (06:09):
Oh, she knew.

Kami (06:11):
She's like, I know, but unfortunately I need you to leave or I have to call the cops. Okay, I know, she says, fuck this shit.

Eva (06:29):
So Wonder Woman life hack, just so you have it. I did a coaching probably six or seven years ago because every time I had to present in front of people, I was panicking absolutely full on panic attack, panicking, and I couldn't figure out why. Well, I know now I was in the wrong job, but at the time I didn't know why I was panicking. So they got me this really amazing coach. It wasn't like a public speaking coach, but I don't remember what her specialty was and it was really expensive. But you know what I learned? When you're scared, go in the bathroom, shut the door, pretend you're Wonder Woman and like power pose in the bathroom. Stick your arms up like your Wonder Woman and just do a bunch of power poses until you feel better. And you know what? It works. I can imagine.

Kami (07:34):
I think there was an episode of Grey's Anatomy like that.

Eva (07:36):
If I had Wonder Woman shirt. I should have had a Wonder Woman shirt under my regular clothes and it would've been even better.

Kami (07:45):
So I've had this Wonder Woman iron on patch that I've had forever, and I was like, I'm never going to get rid of this until I find the right thing to put this patch on. And so I got a denim jacket at, I think, got it at Costco, okay, don't judge me. But I ironed that on it last night. So I had this T-shirt, and then on the back of my denim jacket, I had the big, because the patch is huge, it goes all the way, almost all the way across my shoulders.

Eva (08:14):
Not subtle. Nice.

Kami (08:16):
So now I gave him 24 hours to pay me, which he's not going to do. So now I will be getting an attorney, filing a lawsuit, pressing criminal charges, because in case anybody's not clear, stealing $6,000 from someone is a felony of which you can serve two to three years in jail.

Eva (08:48):
Well, that's serious.

Kami (08:50):
So the truth of the matter is, will I ever see that money? No, probably not.

Eva (08:55):
But it's the principle.

Kami (08:56):
But I'm in it to win it at this point, and whatever it takes to stick it to this guy, I'm going to do. So the reason that I'm in this mess is because when this particular transaction closed, the title company did not adhere to the wiring instructions that I sent them. So it's part of this particular brokerage's practice for agents to get paid directly at closing. It saves the brokerage a lot of time. They don't have to worry about funneling the funds through and they don't have to worry about sending anybody a 1099 because they're not actually physically giving money. So it wasn't like I was doing anything that wasn't normal practice. This is how they wanted to do it, and this is what I did. So it's also normal for the title company to call and verify wire instructions. So they had done that, and I had called and said, Hey, I never got my wire.

(10:05):
What gives? And he is like, oh, we sent it out about half an hour ago. This is Monday. So today's what? Thursday? So three, four days ago. And I was like, I feel like the last four days of my life have taken 10 years. So the guy's like, well, yeah, we sent two wires with the one set of wire instructions that we had. And I was like, Nope, nope. Here's a copy of the email. I said, first of all, I have sent you these instructions three times, once in the very beginning of the transaction to say, Hey, just so you know, when it gets to this point, this is how we're going to do the money. Because I knew the broker was going to get shady. And then I had sent him August 1st, I sent him the commission disbursement form to sign, and it basically says, this much money is allocated to the brokerage. This much money is allocated to Kami. He signs it, I sign it. Okay. I sent that with his wire instructions and my wire instructions to the title company on August 1st.

(11:21):
August 13th rolls around and there's a line item on the settlement statement that's not correct. So it says both parts of the commission going to the listing agent. Said, no, no, no, this goes to here. This goes to my brokerage again, here's a copy of the wire instructions in the agreement. And I said, this much money's going to the brokerage. This much money's going to, I spelled it out verbatim exactly how to do it. I said, this wire goes to this and this wire goes into my account.

Eva (11:52):
It's almost like you knew they were not going to do it right.

Kami (11:54):
Right. Yeah. So I'm like, okay. So she's like, yeah, no problem. Cool. I don't know where the communication broke down because the person that was the person closing the file wasn't necessarily the same person that did the signing and the disbursement of funds. So there was, I dunno how that happened, but it happened. So when I'm talking to the guy, I said, no, no, I did this. I sent it to this person, blah, blah, blah. Forwarded him the email. He's like, well, lemme look into it. I'll call you back. Cool. Calls me back and says, so we called this broker. He says that he's not going to send us the money back and that he needs to contact his attorney and hung up. I'm like, okay, okay. Well what are we going to do here? So he's like, let me get with my manager. I'll call you back. Cool. So the manager calls and the broker's like, yeah, I just don't think that that was my signature. I don't think I signed that document.

Eva (13:28):
What?

Kami (13:28):
So yeah, I said, Hmm, okay, because your girl has the receipts. Alright, I have text messages saying, so when you send documents for electronic signature, it also comes with a certificate that basically says that a certified thing saying this particular signing link was opened from this particular person's email address all the way down to the second that they opened it and signed it.

(14:00):
So I have that. So I have the electronic proof. I also have text messages saying on August 1st, Hey broker, can you please sign this commission disbursement? We're trying to close early. He's like, yes, ma'am. Signed within two minutes. So he signed it before I had a chance to cool. And he's like, yeah, I don't remember doing that, so it's not valid. He's like, I don't remember signing it. So it's not valid.

Eva (14:26):
What about this text message that says you signed it?

Kami (14:29):
I know .

Eva (14:29):
That you sent me saying you signed it.

Kami (14:31):
Right? So I sent that to the title company. They know that they fucked up big time and they're really trying to basically sweet talk him into paying me, which of course he doesn't. So finally,

Eva (14:46):
Are they on the hook? Is the title company on the hook?

Kami (14:51):
That's what we're trying to determine next. So basically the final thing with the title company was unfortunately because we are not party, a party to this particular agreement, we can't help you any further. We tried to get him to pay you. We understand that we fucked up, but you're on your own. Okay. So today, this is when I, of course, my dad being so great, he drafted

Eva (15:29):
And very experienced.

Kami (15:30):
Yes, very eloquent. He wrote this email or the letter and was like, yeah. So I went through it, kind of edited a few things and drove over there. And that's when he was like, well, I'm in a meeting, you need to leave, blah, blah, blah. Okay, so he's not going to pay me, which is okay, and I'll have to start the process of a lawsuit.

Eva (16:06):
Do you need a GoFundMe?

Kami (16:08):
Yeah, that might be great. That might be nice. Crowdfund my legal fees.

Eva (16:13):
What will we title it? Kami's legal defense fund against drunk former boss.

Kami (16:21):
Yeah,

Eva (16:22):
I don't want to get named. I hope he doesn't listen to the show.

Kami (16:25):
No, he doesn't. Even if he did, here's the thing. I'm not saying anything that is not actual fact. So if I was standing from the rooftops screaming all of this, there isn't anything that he can do about it. It's called freedom of speech and I'm not lying. Okay.

Eva (16:43):
Yeah.

Kami (16:43):
This isn't. So that's what I've been dealing with. It's just been a nightmare. So the next stage, the next part of that is to basically have a consultation with an attorney to talk about what legal responsibilities the title company has. Because the truth is, I would not be in this mess if they had not followed the simple instructions that I sent to them multiple times. If they had done that, we would not be in this situation.

Eva (17:18):
No, we would not have been enabled to steal your money had they just followed the directions.

Kami (17:23):
So now he's trying to say that A, I am defaming him and slandering him, and okay, he's also trying to say that I didn't uphold my end of our broker agent contract. So in that contract it says that you have to give a 60 day notice if you're going to leave the brokerage,

(17:53):
which I didn't do. However, it doesn't say what the consequences are if you don't do that specific thing. Like if you have to require to give 60 day notice if don't give 60 day notice, then you then forfeit any unpaid commission. It doesn't say anything like that. So I'm like, okay, well, there's no real consequences to that. Now he could sue me for being in breach of contract, but that doesn't automatically mean that he gets to withhold my commission. He doesn't get to just decide that. That's not how contracts work. And he still has a legal obligation to hold up his end just because I didn't give the 60/90 notice, and I am in breach of that contract, technically doesn't negate his responsibility to do his part. And he doesn't understand that because he's so alcohol, addled soaked brain isn't going to really, he just has no cognitive sense.

Eva (18:59):
What strikes me here is your willingness to actually go through with the fighting, because that's not something that I can do ever, and I always back down whenever I get these kinds of situations, I just fold.

Kami (19:11):
So he has done this exact thing before to another woman in the brokerage for a $12,000 commission, and she just backed down and he got away with it.

Eva (19:25):
She didn't want to fight him.

Kami (19:26):
So now he thinks I'm going to do that too. And everybody that I've talked to that's left the brokerage is like Kami, he's only doing this to you because you're a woman. If it was a man in my situation, he would've just given them the money. He thinks that he can bully you because you're a woman and he thinks he can get away with it. He's gotten away with it before. So it turns out the prior brokerage that he was with before he started this one, he was fired from not paying one of his agents, like an $82,000 worth of commissions. And they were like,

Eva (20:04):
That's, a patter.

Kami (20:04):
You haven't paid her. You're done. We can't get out. You're fired.

Eva (20:10):
Too much of a liability.

Kami (20:12):
Yeah. So

Eva (20:14):
How do you keep your broker's license after that?

Kami (20:17):
I don't know. Because she didn't pursue it criminally. She got her money and then that was that. So I made a report already to the Indiana Real Estate Commission, and I get the email saying, your case has been opened. We'll be in touch within the next 30 working days.

Eva (20:39):
That's like two months.

Kami (20:40):
I know. Okay.

Eva (20:46):
There's no such thing as a real estate emergency.

Kami (20:51):
Apparently not. So I do have somebody that I'm going to reach out to who was the man that taught my real estate classes that I went to get my Indiana license, and he's very knowledgeable, been in the business for years, super connected around here, and I'm going to have to be like, okay, this is what's going on. Is there anybody you can point me in the direction of or whatever. I've already gotten a referral to an attorney and you know.

Eva (21:22):
Alright, stay tuned.

Kami (21:27):
And we're done with our session today. What the fuck? Okay, I'm sorry. So yeah, that's what I've been dealing with. It's just been insanity, but I'm not going to back down and I'm okay with that.

Eva (21:46):
Well, you seem fine. I mean, I can tell that you're mad, but you're not like a puddle.

Kami (21:51):
Well, it's okay. I cried for the first three days of the week and I got all of that out.

Eva (21:55):
We're past the crying stage,

Kami (21:57):
And then I put on my Wonder Woman and I'm like, sir, you don't know what you're fucking with. He doesn't know. He just thinks I'm going to bend over. I was like, you've got to be kidding me. You've got to be kidding me.

Eva (22:15):
So I had a follow-up appointment this morning.

Kami (22:19):
Oh, yeah,

Eva (22:21):
Yeah. I'm still stuck.

Kami (22:24):
I am too What is this?

Eva (22:25):
You need a plan.

Kami (22:25):
The good news is I'm not gaining. I feel like that is a huge win with everything going on.

Eva (22:33):
I'd rather be stuck than anything.

Kami (22:35):
Otherwise I would've gained 10 pounds at least over this drama, at least for sure.

Eva (22:46):
But I have to get a tooth pulled next week. So I'm going to take three weeks off from meds. I've never done that. But we're going to see what happens.

Kami (22:56):
You have to get off of it, you have to be off of it for three weeks?

Eva (22:59):
No, I have to be off for 10 days before anesthesia. So I'm going to do that, and then I'm going to wait another week after because I won't have a tooth right here.

Kami (23:11):
So are you going to get an implant or you just going to be hillbilly or what?

Eva (23:15):
Yeah, I'm going to get an implant.

Kami (23:19):
Oh, come on.

Eva (23:19):
They're going to do a bone graft and it has to heal for four months. I'm going to be without that tooth for four months.

Kami (23:26):
They got to do a bone graft? Oh, good God.

Eva (23:31):
Yep. So it's about to get real over here.

Kami (23:34):
Oh, that's so cute. I hate this for you. I really do.

Eva (23:38):
I hate it for me too. I hated the whole process so much that I don't trust anyone, first of all. And my regular dentist who I've been going to who did the root canal that is now cracked, she was very, the hygienist, when I went in to say, I think something's wrong with this tooth, it was bugging me. She was like, oh my God, you might have to get this done. You might have to get this fixed before you go on your trip. I'm like, my trip's in two days. This was in July. Are you serious? She freaked out.

Kami (24:16):
That is never a good sign when the dental hygienist is losing her shit over something. No.

Eva (24:23):
Okay, here's how cynical I am though Kami. I thought it was a sales tactic. Later on, I was like, if I was a consultant in a dental practice and somebody, this is a thing, how do you get them to see it's urgent? Well act like it's urgent, but it's not urgent. So that threw me off.

Kami (24:44):
I do wonder about that too, when it comes to that kind of stuff. I did have to go to the emergency dentist because

Eva (24:52):
What for?

Kami (24:53):
Well, because on the left I was having a lot of pain in the lower left side in the back, and I thought, I've got a cavity. I'm going to have to get another crown. All this stuff. I go in and the dentist, they took the x-ray and they're like, there's no sign of anything going on here. And he says, he's like, how long have you been grinding your teeth? I'm like, oh fuck. And then I was like, confession time. I've got sleep apnea too. And he's like, that's going on. So apparently he's like, the way your teeth are, he called it like a road bump. So when you're going together with your teeth it's catching on something, so now I have to wear a mouth guard. But yes, I got to wear a mouth guard and it's really, they're disposable. You use them for three nights and you chuck 'em and get a new one.

(25:55):
And they're really thin. They're not, I mean, as far as having something in your mouth while you're sleeping, it's really not that uncomfortable. And I have also stopped my night sweats.

Eva (26:08):
What?

Kami (26:08):
Yes. I thought I was like, I was like, these doctors don't know. I'm in, I'm perimenopausal blah, blah. And they're like, your hormones are fine. Your hormones are totally fine. And I was like, but I'm doing all this. And they're like, well, it's probably your sleep apnea. But I think it was my teeth grinding that was causing me to have these really awful night sweats because I would physically get really worked up and all of the tension in my jaw and it would just cause me to start sweating.

Eva (26:40):
Oh, weird.

Kami (26:41):
I don't know. I mean, I'm not a medical expert and if anybody's listening that has related to this, please let us know. But I'm like, my night sweats are gone now.

Eva (26:52):
And we're talking like, well, so it's this number 19 down here, and they said it's the biggest tooth in your mouth, most important tooth in your mouth because it's where you do all your chewing. Why don't chew on that side anyway, it's been bugging me for years. This is also why I'm not such a fan of my actual dentist because I've been complaining about it for that long. And they just say, she'll just say, oh, put a watch on number 19.

Kami (27:16):
How long are we going to watch it for the rest of eternity? What? And then all of a sudden it's an emergency after you've already told them about this for how long?

Eva (27:26):
All of a sudden.

Kami (27:26):
And then they're like, we're like, oh, shoot.

Eva (27:28):
Forgive me for being skeptical, but I was like,

Kami (27:30):
The doctor's kids got to start college. We better go ahead and get this tooth out. We need the money.

Eva (27:38):
Well, you know what it comes with. So they send you out to get the extraction and the inside part of the implant, and then they get to do the buildup. So they both make a big pile of money on this deal, right? Because she's got to put the new tooth on top and I will not let her do this. I'm not going back. I'm done. I've been going there for 12 years and I'm not going back.

Kami (28:00):
Yeah, I don't blame you.

Eva (28:03):
She sent me to the endodontist and he

Kami (28:05):
Endodontist. Yeah.

Eva (28:07):
Yeah. They do roots, right? He was very nice. They do a scan or whatever. You got to pay cash for the consult. It's like $400. Fine. Okay. I appreciate an honest transaction where I pay you for something and there's not some insurance game going on.

Kami (28:27):
Or, oh, we're going to bill your insurance and then all of a sudden you get the surprise medical bills, which makes me want a light on fire.

Eva (28:37):
Just tell me what it's going to be. Well, he's like, well, there could be a crack or there might not be a crack, so either we can treat it and it takes a year or we can just take it out. So he has these two completely opposite paths you can choose, and both of them are expensive and he doesn't care which one you do. He has no opinion one way or the other. I'm like, what am I doing here?

Kami (29:08):
Well, it's not his job to say, Hey, these are all of your options. And as a professional, I would recommend this, and here's why.

Eva (29:15):
That is what I think his job is. I call my regular dentist back and I explain all of this. She calls him, they collude on how they're going to, I think cynically, how they're going to get my money. They're colluding on how they're going to get me to say yes. So what do I say? No, thanks. I'm going to get a second consult. So then I text my friend who knows probably every high-end dentist in the United States, because he previously, before the job he has now, he was buying dental practices and he bought for private equity. He bought some of the biggest practices in the world. And so I just said, Hey, who would you go to in Austin? And he said, standby. And he came right back a couple minutes later he said, this guy. And so I scheduled an appointment. I said, I need a second opinion. I'm happy to pay cash. And they brought me in there pretty quick. The funniest thing about this appointment was it was at noon, and the office manager was behind the front desk and was talking to some kind of consultant, I assume someone similar to myself, but in dental.

(30:29):
And she divulged so much private information about that business while I was sitting there listening and they were late. So I sat there for 55 minutes at about 40 minutes after I said, Hey, I just want to make sure that I had the appointment time right. It's totally within the realm of possibility that I put it in my calendar at the wrong time. I do that.

Kami (30:56):
For real. Absolutely. Check that box for me too, girl. I'd be like, oh, I must have the, you know what I mean? But when you went in to say, Hey, I'm here for my appointment, blah, blah.

Eva (31:07):
She didn't say a word. She was too busy sharing all this business information with this consultant, and I'm the only one there. I can hear every word. She thinks she's talking quietly, but she's telling this woman everything about their business without considering for a moment that I might know people or that I might,

Kami (31:27):
You might have connections all over the place or what is she? And I'm like, oh my God.

Eva (31:33):
So I went to the restroom. I said, I'm just going to go to the restroom. I'll be right back. Well, then they realized how late they were and she was like, oh, he's just running a tad behind

Kami (31:44):
A tad behind an hour

Eva (31:46):
A tad. This is not a tad.

Kami (31:49):
So as a former hairstylist, sometimes you run behind. Every person that we've ever had training with about scheduling appointments and doing this stuff will tell you that a client or a patient in this case will wait comfortably for about seven minutes, and that's your cutoff. So once you hit the seven minutes past their appointment and you're still not ready, you got damage control to do. She did not get that memo.

Eva (32:32):
No. So what do I do? What do I do?

Kami (32:37):
Did you call the guy?

Eva (32:37):
How am I going to play this? I'm texting a friend of mine who also works in this space the whole time to tell him what I'm giving him, the play by play. You're not going to believe what this woman's talking about. You're not going to believe this. And so he's laughing with me. So I'm actually enjoying it because it's fun. If you're in the industry, it's kind of hilarious actually. So I say on my way out after the consult, which was amazing, and the endodontist was an absolute gem. He did another 360 scan. He did not charge me for it because he knew how long I'd been sitting there.

Kami (33:16):
Okay, well.

Eva (33:16):
It worked out in my favor. He made it right and he apologized really nicely, and then he told me the truth. So anyway, he was amazing. I got the answer I needed. On the way out, I said, oh, are you going to be at AADOM? I heard her saying she was going to AADOM, this is the American Association of Dental Office Managers Conference, which is on my calendar in a couple of weeks.

Kami (33:41):
Does she look at you like a deer in the headlights? And she's like, ruh ro.

Eva (33:45):
Are you going to AADOM? I'm like, yeah, I'll stop by.

Kami (33:53):
Oh, she did not.

Eva (33:54):
Maybe I'll see you there.

Kami (33:55):
No, she does not know.

Eva (34:00):
No, she doesn't know.

Kami (34:04):
This poor idiot.

Eva (34:06):
And I asked the girl who was in the actual treatment room, how long has her name is? I'm just going to call her JK. Okay. Because she had a very Texas Southern, two names in one. I don't want to out her but JK. I said, how long has JK been here? Oh, 35 years. She's been, I'm like, well, I knew that already. She was telling the consultant how long she's been in the industry, but she's been around for so long that she actually thinks she owns everything. She's like that.

Kami (34:40):
She's just part of the furniture now. She's a fixture. And so you're not always really cognizant of what's, you know what I mean? Because somebody that had been there, oh, a year or two or newer would've been known, been like, Hey, probably shouldn't be talking about company business in front of people, but she just, it's probably not even a thought in her brain.

Eva (35:04):
So comfortable that it wouldn't even occur to her that someone might be listening. So anyway, then I was on my way and I got two more names for now, I am like, okay, now I know I need to have this pulled and I need to get an implant. So now what? It's like starting over.

Kami (35:25):
Yeah.

Eva (35:26):
So I got a name, a great one, and then I went to the one who pulled Kari's tooth last summer. Do you remember when that was all going down? She got that tooth pulled by then the doctor was so lovely and they really failed at that consult. They treated me like a criminal because I had out of network insurance and they were so rude. He was not, he was as lovely as always, but the entire staff treated me. I was just a giant inconvenience, even though I was like a $7,000 cash patient. It was wild.

Kami (36:02):
That's insane. Why are people like that?

Eva (36:06):
I have no idea. Because they don't know any better.

Kami (36:08):
You elected to offer this service to the public. Nobody forced you to do this. This isn't like a prison sentence. You decided that you wanted to be in the medical field and that you wanted to be in the dentist arena and all this stuff. You decided that, and now you're going to treat me like, shit. What? Go get another job if you don't like it.

Eva (36:36):
The surgical coordinator for Kari was wonderful, and so another friend of mine was like, you really need to write the surgeon a letter and just tell him what happened. I'm like, okay, I'll take the time to write him a letter and tell him why I didn't choose him, and I probably will. But right now I just want to get other things done. The place that I am going, it looked like a plastic surgery office. It's absolutely beautiful. They were so good. But I will say they both do this thing. Before you've said, yes, I'm going to come here, they pretty much take you through the entire pre-op appointment about what not to eat and what to wear. And I'm like, why are we talking about this? I haven't even said yes.

Kami (37:20):
That's called the assumptive close. They're just assuming

Eva (37:24):
It's not though. There's an assumptive close which is, let's put you on the calendar. Let's pick a date because that's actually the biggest thing is timing for any surgery is when am I going to do this and how long do I need to be home afterward? That is where you do the assumptive close and then you do the pre-op after that. You don't spend time doing a pre-op appointment with somebody who's not on the schedule.

Kami (37:51):
Well, that's true. Yeah. Weird.

Eva (37:54):
It's just in the wrong order and it drives me nuts.

Kami (37:57):
Yeah. Why would you waste your time like that?

Eva (38:00):
They probably did some training somewhere where someone taught them to do it first, so that that's the assumptive close in this space. And I think it's wrong. We don't do it that way in plastic surgery ever. Unless they're doing it wrong. They do. They do sometimes do it wrong.

Kami (38:16):
Sometimes that happens.

Eva (38:18):
Yeah. So always learning.

Kami (38:23):
Yeah. Yes.

Eva (38:26):
And so I'm getting new head shots tomorrow, and my friend Dan said to me about my zoom little avatar of your photo that you upload when you're not on the screen. He goes, you know, look younger than the photo on your zoom photo. And I was like, yeah, that photo's from 2008, buddy. I look younger now than I did in 2008. Thanks. So it's probably time for new headshot. So I'm getting 'em done tomorrow.

Kami (38:54):
Oh, that's good. I need to get mine done too since I chopped all my hair off. But yeah. I think I want to take a nap. I'm so drained. I am so emotional. I literally cried for two days straight.

Eva (39:13):
Oh, it's so hard to go through something like that. And you should take a nap and just get a change of scenery.

Kami (39:20):
Yeah. I was trying to get this one to get in bed with me and we could snuggle up and watch a movie, but I don't know if she wants to.

Eva (39:30):
They're kind of like cats after a while. They want to snuggle when they want to snuggle, but not when you want 'em to snuggle.

Kami (39:35):
Right. On their terms. Rude. Rude. So the other thing that's going on today on top of everything with the brokerage and all that shenanigans is AC is getting installed on this house. Not my house, but the house that was purchased. And so I'm help facilitating that. So I'm like

Eva (39:58):
The one, you're not getting paid commission on that house?

Kami (40:01):
Yeah, that same one.

Eva (40:02):
Okay.

Kami (40:03):
I still got to help the buyers that are my parents.

Eva (40:05):
It's still a job to do.

Kami (40:05):
Still, you still got to get shit done.

Eva (40:08):
Oh wait, it's your parents? It's your mom and dad's house that you're not getting paid on?

Kami (40:14):
Yep.

Eva (40:16):
Oh my God.

Kami (40:17):
Yeah. Sorry, if I didn't say that then yes, that's correct.

Eva (40:26):
That's just wrong.

Kami (40:26):
On every level. Yeah, my dad lost it. He's like, what? Well, if by both of weren't losing their minds.

Eva (40:40):
Oh, I'm sure. Raymond, I'm on my way.

Kami (40:49):
I know, right? I'm like, okay, no, they're really helping me. But I'm like, we planned all these things to be done during certain times because, so the AC needed to be repaired and instead of doing the repair, they took a credit from the seller and we're just replacing it. It was like, start off fresh. It's a really great unit. It'll last 20 years. I said, trust me, you're not going to regret spending the money now to get a good system and be good. Right.

Eva (41:21):
Well, I guess if you're working on their house for free, at least it's not some random stranger.

Kami (41:25):
I know. Well, I mean, to be fair though, they are paying me to do some things around there. I'm going to pay me to let the guys in and coordinate the painters and the cleaners and all that. So they're taking care of me for sure. 100%. And my dad's helping me write the letters and making it really clear on what needs to be done as far as getting paid. So they're covering me, but I just felt bad. I was like, well, I have some bills to pay. I was counting on that money. It's not like, oh, now I can't go buy that Gucci bag I really wanted. No, I got to pay fucking internet and cable, or not cable, but my credit card. Come on, HOA dues. So they're taking care of me and we're going to get through it, and, I'm just kind of just excited to press criminal charges against someone.

Eva (42:33):
Yeah.

Kami (42:35):
Yeah.

Eva (42:36):
Well, I hope that he can never do this to anybody again.

Kami (42:38):
I really think he needs to just have his license, the thing that would really hurt him the worst would be to have his license revoked.

Eva (42:48):
Yeah, he should.

Kami (42:51):
But I've got to get, it can't just be me. It has to be everyone else that he's done shady stuff to speak up and say, yeah, he did this. Yeah, he did that. So one of the more benign things that he has done is like, let's say you've got Agent Mary. He will get into Mary's CRM, look up who she's been communicating with, a buyer, let's say. Calls the buyer and says, Hey, I'm so-and-so broker Mary works at my firm. She asked me to call you to give you a referral to a lender so you can get your pre-approval done today. And then refers her to the in-office lender that just started renting a space. Mary has no clue this happened. So the buyer called and is like, oh yeah, I got the referral that you sent over, such and such broker called me, and Mary's like the fuck. Yeah. So he's basically saying, oh yeah, she asked me to call you. And she's like, why would I, if I had a referral to a lender, why would I not just give it to her myself?

(44:16):
That's a very quick little text saying, oh, hey, so-and-so buyer, here's a referral to the lender. You send him the contact. Why would I need my broker?

Eva (44:26):
What's he up to? How's he getting paid on that?

Kami (44:28):
Because what he has done is he has this lender renting an office space from him, and in order to get that money, he's probably way over promised the leads that this lender would be getting from his broker, from his agents. Because otherwise, why would you as a lender want to have an office inside of a real estate firm? That would be the only reason. And he did it to not only Mary, but also to Sally. So it's not just one off situation. The fuck. So that's the kind of shady stuff that I'm talking about.

Eva (45:16):
Yeah.

Kami (45:20):
Yeah.

Eva (45:22):
Alright, well stay tuned.

Kami (45:23):
Stay tuned.

Eva (45:24):
We'll get an update next week.

Kami (45:24):
He's going to get his hopefully.

Eva (45:27):
Okay.

Kami (45:29):
Meanwhile, we're going to see if we can just maybe lose a little bit of weight. I would take a quarter pound at this point. I would take ounces. It's fine.

Eva (45:44):
I'm interested to see if the four week break hits reset.

Kami (45:47):
Kickstart to you again?

Eva (45:48):
That's the plan.

Kami (45:49):
Yes. I'm interested to see that as well.

Eva (45:53):
Yeah, it's worth a try, I mean. And I'm also curious to see how hungry I get.

Kami (46:03):
Me too.

(46:04):
If you text me and be like, oh my God, I'm going to go get a quarter pounder with cheese, I'm like, no, go chew on a carrot.

Eva (46:14):
That was never my thing, but, yeah. Okay. Alright. I gotta go back to work.

Kami (46:21):
Fine., fine

Eva (46:24):
Okay. Wonder Woman. See you later.

Kami (46:26):
We'll talk to you on the flip side.

Eva (46:30):
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