How to hide that you’re on a GLP-1

Eva (00:00):
Okay. Hi. Where's Millie?

Kami (00:02):
She's over here.

Eva (00:04):
Oh, she's being quiet today.

Kami (00:05):
Yeah. Don't say her name though, because not to summon her. I don't know. So how have you been?

Eva (00:18):
Good. Yeah, we have some stuff to talk about today. We got a really nice email from a listener, which I sent to you.

Kami (00:31):
Yes.

Eva (00:31):
And it inspired me.

Kami (00:33):
Absolutely.

Eva (00:36):
It inspired me to not quit, first of all. So thank you for that. But also, I think we should have a discussion about if you wanted to hide that you were taking medication from the people you live with, how would you do it? So we'll get to that in a minute. I did get on the scale this morning. I was at 187, and I also have to get a tooth pulled. So I had to go to the periodontist. I had a really early appointment, and so I got a babysitter to come over at 7:00 AM so I could go to the dentist.

Kami (01:09):
Oh my gosh.

Eva (01:09):
So that's my morning so far. How about you?

Kami (01:12):
Oh, well, I was literally shoveling shit.

Eva (01:17):
Literally.

Kami (01:18):
Literally. So I started, say, started volunteering, but today was my first day at a horse therapy place. So it's for, and they do like lessons and they do all kinds of stuff, but I think their main gig is therapy with disabled kids, basically. And so they rely on a lot of volunteers, and it's something I've been wanting to do for a while. And now that I quit this other job, I was like, I feel like if you're not working, you should be doing something. So I went and volunteered. So first of all, you dump all the water from the previous day, and then you refill all the waters. And I say all, and it's like nine or 10 stalls. So I mean, it's a lot of work. And then you go in and you basically muck out the stalls, which essentially looks like a gigantic litter box. So the whole process is that you're scooping everything up. You're trying to save some of the bedding. You don't want to just chuck it all, and then you put their hay in there and then you clean up the whole area. So I was there for two and a half hours.

Eva (02:53):
Do you have boots?

Kami (02:54):
Well, I just wore my regular shoes. I haven't even showered. I had hay all over me. I was sweating up a storm. And of course, this little 20-year-old girl that's cute as a button and this big around was running circles around me and I was like, I'm old enough to be your mom. Okay. So at any rate, yeah. So yeah, that's what I was doing, and it was great. I loved it. It was awesome. So I think that'll be my regular Tuesday, Wednesday thing.

Eva (03:32):
Nice.

Kami (03:34):
If I get the job that I think I'm going to get, I'm hoping they'll be a little flexible with my time, so I can continue to do it, but we'll see.

Eva (03:43):
Yeah, when I got home, I had to get the girls out the door. So we're in our last week of summer, I think Kordelia went back to school already?

Kami (03:52):
So she started last Thursday.

Eva (03:56):
Okay.

Kami (03:57):
So July 31st, I was like, is this happening?

Eva (03:59):
Why?

Kami (03:59):
I dunno. I don't know.

Eva (04:03):
Why are they doing that in Indiana? That doesn't make any sense.

Kami (04:08):
Basically they get a week off in October, a week off in November, and then they're winter break over Christmas and New Year's is like two and a half, almost three weeks, and then spring break. And then they're out of school though a lot earlier.

Eva (04:27):
Well, we have been, Ellie is five, she just turned five. She is very particular about what she looks like. She's been obsessed with makeup and she's been obsessed with her outfit. So when I came home from the dentist, she was wearing a crop top that was part of a swimsuit set. So it was technically a swimsuit shirt with a sporty skirt and heels. She had about 12 bracelets on necklace, earrings and a purse, a cross body, of course, a furry, a furry cross body. And I said, honey, you look beautiful, but I don't think you can wear a swimsuit top. Her belly sticking out, all of that was fine. I got her redressed and out the door. But on Sunday we went to Dani Go Live, and she had an absolute meltdown before we left. And she kept saying, there's nothing I can wear. I look fat. I look fat. I don't want anyone to think I'm fat. I'm like, where in the heck did this come from? Nobody says that in this house. Nobody. So

Kami (05:44):
Why would she?

Eva (05:44):
I took the iPads and threw them off a bridge? I didn't. But they're gone. They're never coming back.

Kami (05:53):
Why would she? I don't know that is so weird.

Eva (05:58):
And she's been saying to Kari, you're fat, Kari, you're fat.

Kami (06:01):
No, that has got to stop.

Eva (06:02):
We don't talk to each other. First of all, none of you are fat. This is silly. This is factually untrue.

Kami (06:11):
That's so weird.

Eva (06:12):
It is weird.

Kami (06:17):
I don't get it.

Eva (06:20):
Yeah, I don't either. And I feel like it's one of those things that I have to, if I pay too much attention to it, it's just going to get bigger.

Kami (06:28):
It'll just eat at you. Well, I mean, do you think that they're picking up on the fact that you've lost all this weight and they are seeing that and it's affecting them like that?

Eva (06:47):
I don't know that they saw it except when they see pictures of me. Because when you are with the person who's losing weight, you don't see it because you see it every day, both when you're getting bigger and smaller. It works kind of the same way. But they have seen pictures and they have heard people talk to me about it, and they heard us fighting about what they were eating. So I'm sure that's part of it.

Kami (07:12):
Yeah, you can't do that.

Eva (07:16):
No.

Kami (07:17):
Oh, geez. Yeah.

Eva (07:21):
We talk about the two kolache day.

Kami (07:23):
Yes.

Eva (07:23):
We had a whole fight about the kolaches. Yeah. And then there's something else like, no, you cannot have another cup of milk, have a glass of water. No, you cannot have a giant bottle of lemonade. You can have water. So I feel like they're starting to adjust to it, but it takes a lot of energy for me to battle with them about every little piece of everything.

Kami (07:52):
Yeah. I really wish I had advice for you, but I just don't.

Eva (07:55):
I know.

Kami (07:56):
I'm so sorry, Eva. I want to relate so bad, but I,

Eva (08:00):
There is no advice. I don't know how I got to 280, so how am I going to tell them what to do and not do?

Kami (08:08):
Right. Yeah. I have a kid that I can't stuff enough calories into, and that is going on eight years old and still wearing a size six. So I'm like, can you eat? I have to, and she gets, I'm really not trying to project my ADHD onto my kid, but if it is, it is what it is. But she'll get so focused on what it is that she's doing that she won't eat. And then she'll be hangry and a total asshole. So that's my struggle. So here's what my sister and I kind of came up with as far as our rules around body image. And it goes like this. We don't ever speak negatively about our bodies. We don't ever speak negatively about other people's bodies. We don't compare our bodies to other people, and we don't compare other people's bodies to other people. We don't do any of those things, period. Because they're growing and changing by the milli second and whatever they're going through right now, they're not going to go through later in life when they're adults. You know what I'm saying?

Eva (09:53):
So do you remember ever if Kordelia got sick when she was little, like toddler little, and when they lose one or two pounds when they're tiny, and then they look so different so fast. Do you ever remember that happening?

Kami (10:10):
Honestly, I will be. She never got that sick. I ever, the worst thing that she ever had around that age was an ear infection. She just was a real resilient kid, I guess. I don't know. But I know what you mean. I know that it can really affect him and they can look pretty different.

Eva (10:36):
Yeah. I just remember that happening maybe just once. And then Kari got really skinny in a week just from not eating for a week. So I know whatever it is, it can turn around really quick when you're little. But she also has pectus carinatum, do you know what that is or have you ever heard of the opposite one?

Kami (11:01):
I have never heard of that.

Eva (11:02):
The pectus excavatum is the one where their rib cage is sunken in, and Carinatum is the one where their sternum is protrudes a little bit.

Kami (11:13):
Okay.

Eva (11:15):
And if you're going to have one, that's the one I have. Because if your ribcage is sunken in and it can actually damage your internal organs is really dangerous. But when you have the other one, the treatment is just like when you're a tween, they give you this band and you wear it for a month and it forms, it forms it flattens out your sternum again.

Kami (11:37):
Oh, okay.

Eva (11:37):
So when I took her in for that, finally at the children's hospital and saw the plastic surgeon, he was like, come back in four to six. Or what did he say? Come back in seven to nine, thought he was going to say months. And he said years. And I started laughing because I was like, okay, no problem. We'll come back in 10 years. It's not a big deal. It felt like a big deal. She was my first, and she was so tiny and it was so weird. But she still, I've noticed that swimming, there's kids who stand with their belly stuck out, and she just stands like that. She's not fat. She just sticks her belly out when she's standing a certain way and she doesn't know to be self-conscious about it, we get when we're older.

Kami (12:27):
Well, that's good.

Eva (12:29):
Yeah. Actually, I'll worry about her when maybe I should worry when she starts doing that. I don't know. I'm worried about all of it.

Kami (12:39):
They're not very self-aware, obviously. And they don't need to be. Who cares?

Eva (12:46):
They shouldn't be. I hope they can stay that way as long as possible.

Kami (12:49):
Yes, absolutely. Kordelia is, she just would run around naked and not give a single fuck. Would not care. Hey buddy.

Eva (13:07):
Oh, kitty. My kitty is going to probably pass away. Did I tell you that she's 17, she's really sick.

Kami (13:19):
What's wrong with her?

Eva (13:22):
Well, I don't know. Probably maybe as an unpopular approach, but I'm not going to go spend thousands of dollars at the vet on a 17-year-old cat.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Not on a 17 year old cat. No, no.

Eva (13:34):
As long as she's not in pain, then we're going to just keep going until, but so she just says eating nonstop and peeing nonstop.

Kami (13:43):
That's diabetes.

Eva (13:45):
Yeah.

Kami (13:48):
See, now you hear her because she sees Leo.

Eva (13:51):
Oh yeah.

Kami (13:54):
For anybody that doesn't know this is Leo

Eva (13:59):
Orange, fluffy Kitty

Kami (14:01):
Or Leonardo Von Fluff.

Eva (14:04):
Oh God. Kami.

Kami (14:06):
Yeah, that's his real name.

Eva (14:17):
Oh my gosh. This is the first cat appearance ever on a podcast produced by the Axis. Thank you. You heard it here.

Kami (14:24):
You heard it here first folks. My motor man.

Eva (14:33):
Okay, so let's go to our amazing idea from our amazing listener.

Kami (14:40):
Can I actually,

Eva (14:41):
You got something

Kami (14:42):
Go off. I have a side quest here, which has absolutely nothing to do with losing weight or any such thing. So I spoke to my ex-husband.

Eva (15:01):
Oh no.

Kami (15:04):
Yesterday, for the first time since our divorce was finalized.

Eva (15:10):
What brought this on?

Kami (15:15):
The Debra.

Eva (15:17):
What?

Kami (15:18):
So The Debra found some photos of him, and when he was a kid with his dad, and she texts me and she's like, Hey, can you find his address? He probably would like these pictures. I'm like, okay. So I had his phone number. I've always had his phone number. It's always been in my contacts. I just never deleted it. Mostly because if he wanted to call me out of the blue, I would want to know it was him. So I sent him a text and I was like, Hey. And I told him what happened. He was like, okay. He's like, yeah, sure, sounds good. I'm like, well, what's your address, bitch? I don't know where you live. Fuck. He says, so he wants to vet me to make sure it's really me, which in this day and age, with every scam under the sun, I absolutely can understand. So he says to me, what's your mother and father's name? So I said, I told him and I said, yeah, it really is me. And he's like, well, if it's really you call me. I'm like, alright. So I was at my neighbor's house, and this was yesterday afternoon was like, before I was going to pick up Kordelia, I'd done a bunch of work around the house and I was like, I feel it's wine time. It's three o'clock in the afternoon. I mean, this is the time you drink wine when you don't work.

Eva (16:44):
What's that like?

(16:45):
It's wonderful, is what it is. So especially when I have this lady who's my neighbor, who's single and a wino. So I pretty much know, I mean, I say wino, but she's, don't get me wrong, not in a bad way. I just know she's always going to be down for a bottle of wine.

(17:01):
I hope she doesn't listen to this show.

Kami (17:02):
I don't know. She probably does. She probably doesn't. Whatever she, so I was down at her house and I was like, let's call my ex-husband. And I'm like, okay. So I called him and I talked to him, and it was about as weird as you would've fucking expect. His voice sounded totally different. I mean, I'm sure mine does too, from, but his sounded like weirdly different. I don't know. Still the same strange guy that he was before. It was like he just wanted to keep talking to me.

(17:49):
And I was like, okay. We chit chatted. We talked for maybe, I don't know, six or seven minutes. So it wasn't a really long conversation, but enough to, how are you doing? How's things going? What are you up to? And he's like, oh, yeah, I keep track of all that I told him, I said, really is me? And he is like, yeah, I work at the State Department. So I keep track of all that stuff. He keeps tabs on us. He works for the government. I'm like, I don't care. It was so weird. I'm trying to explain, give examples of the conversation.

(18:36):
I was like, well, I've been married almost 10 years and I have a 7-year-old daughter. He's like, oh yeah, I know.

Eva (18:42):
Ooh.

Kami (18:42):
Yeah. I was like, okay. And then he had mentioned that this one random time that he had just randomly texted my sister out of the blue, just happened to be, we were all at my parents' house having a barbecue. And I had just happened to be visiting Washington. It was just a weird coincidence. So we sent him the selfie of the two of us, and we're like, she's, Hey, Kami's here, or whatever. So I don't know if she told him that I was married. I don't even care if, I really don't care what he knows. That's the magic of divorce. You just don't give a fuck anymore.

Eva (19:19):
He's probably listening to this show your neighbor.

Kami (19:21):
Perfect. Great. So then, oh God, it gets weirder. So I'm like, yeah. He's like, yeah. And I was like, oh, yeah, I totally forgot about that, cuz your're not on my radar homie. And then he was like, yeah, he has been divorced again since me.

Eva (19:43):
Oh, no.

Kami (19:44):
And he's like, yeah, we really tried. He's like, I really wanted to have a baby. And I'm like, you did? It was just so strange. I was like, okay. And he's like, yeah, we even tried to do insemination and it didn't work. And I was like,

Eva (20:07):
Thanks for oversharing.

Kami (20:09):
Okay, cool. Yeah.

Eva (20:12):
Oh gosh.

Kami (20:13):
And I was like, alright, well, I'm sorry to hear about that. Then I was like, well, yeah, Angie has a couple girls. And so my mom's got all granddaughters and all the grand girls, she calls 'em, and he's like, oh, that's great. And you just sound like you're a really good person.

Eva (20:32):
Well, it's true.

Kami (20:33):
I know. Well, hopefully you know that I'm a good person. You were married to me for 13 years.

Eva (20:40):
I can't believe you were married for that long.

Kami (20:44):
Yeah. Well, I got married when I was 19, divorced at 32. So anyhow, it just got weirder. And then so he texts me here I should just probably read you the text messages.

Eva (21:03):
Oh, okay.

Kami (21:03):
There's text, there's texts. Everybody. There's texts. All right. So here we go. Oh, I told him, I said, I'm doing real estate now. He's like, oh yeah, you're always really good at sales. Well, I was a hairdresser before that. Okay. So he sent me his address, text me his address after we hung up. I was like, thanks, nice chatting with you. He says, we should do it more if you're comfortable with it. No, no. Wait, wait, wait. No, I'm not going to flirt with you or hit on you. It just sounds like you're a good person. The place I'm living is ridiculous. Since you're a real estate agent, my credit score is ridiculous, 840 or something stupid like that. My address is right next to the Ritz Carlton.

Eva (21:59):
I'm so impressed.

Kami (22:01):
I was like, I don't care how much money you have, you're still fucking douche, but, and I was like, oh, are you looking to buy? And he is like LOL. That's a good sales person. In fact, within the next year. Yes. I was like, oh, right. Well, keep me posted. I'll help you find an agent. And then he was like, well, who are you working for? And I said, well, it's a new brokerage that just opened, which by the way, I do work somewhere else, and we'll get to that later. But anyways, I mean kinda sorta, and he is like, I'll just summarize the rest. He's like, well, what would you do to help? I'm considering referral fees that you might get. And I'm like, yeah. I was like, well, I would. And then he says, well, we're looking at a 1.2 million price point. Okay.

Eva (22:58):
I am baffled. I mean, really, this is just so classic.

Kami (23:04):
To be fair, he does live in the DC area, and he does work at the State Department.

Eva (23:09):
Okay.

Kami (23:14):
1.2 million seems a little bit of a stretch for, I mean, because thinking to myself, I'm like, because generally speaking, if you have a decent credit score and you got some cash saved for a down payment, you usually take your annual income times four, and that's what you can afford to buy. So I'm doing the reverse of that. And I'm like, even at a million, that means you're making 200 and or $300,000 a year working for the State Department. I don't fucking think so.

Eva (23:52):
Probably not. That sounds farfetched.

Kami (23:55):
Maybe if you were the director of some division.

Eva (23:58):
Combined with somebody combined with somebody's married to maybe?

Kami (24:02):
Well, he is divorced. No.

Eva (24:05):
Oh, he is single again.

Kami (24:06):
Yeah.

Eva (24:07):
Well, and I was like, does he own property?

Kami (24:11):
No.

Eva (24:11):
No. Well, then just doing the whole, he's using the online calculator on realtor.com to see how much he can afford what's happening here. It just seems like, okay. Yeah. Okay. I can get qualified. For what it's worth, Kami, I qualify for 1.2 million probably around there. If I bought a 1.2 million house, we would have no money.

Kami (24:38):
You'd be cash, you'd be house poor

Eva (24:39):
 We wouldn't have anything else. We would have nothing. Yeah, nothing. Exactly. I would've to sell my car to buy groceries.

Kami (24:45):
Right, exactly. So then he asked about my brother, and I'm like, oh yeah, Dan's doing really good, dah, dah. And then he asked me, he's like, are your parents still healthy? Meanwhile, I already told him on the phone call that they were, and I was like, oh yeah, they're probably going to live forever. He's like, oh, that's good to hear. I'm like, okay.

Eva (25:12):
Wow. That is something.

Kami (25:13):
 Yeah. He's like, we should do this more often. No, I don't think so. I'm gonna just pass. Thanks for the offer.

Eva (25:26):
So I reconnected with somebody from a million years ago, not that I was in a relationship with, other than we were really, really intense close friends. And it's not like your story at all, except for the lot of time went by part. And so the weird thing is, I've been hiring for a new editor, and so I'm seeing tons and tons of resumes. Well, I saw a really good one, and this person went to Belmont in Nashville, and I thought, I looked at it, it was like a music degree, and it's such a small world when you are a musician. And I stared at it for so long, and I was like, I know somebody who teaches at Belmont or went to Belmont, or is connected to Belmont, but I couldn't put my finger on who it was. And so I kind of went to Facebook and put Belmont in my friends to see if anything would pop. And I did it on LinkedIn, nothing. So I let it go. The next day, you know how Facebook does that suggestion thing where it shows you people, it's very rare that it shows me anyone that I actually want to be Facebook friends with.

Kami (26:49):
It's usually so far off. Like people, you're nobody, like you have 42 mutual friends, but you literally have no idea who this person is.

Eva (26:55):
All the time, or they're my husband's friends that I don't want to be friends with on Facebook,

Kami (27:00):
Whatever. Yeah.

Eva (27:02):
Well, it suggests to me, this person that I was very close to in college, and I went to college before cell phones. And so in the summertime when we were all not together, what did we do? We actually wrote letters. And I have, at my parents' house, I have two or three shoe boxes that are just jammed full of letters that we all wrote to each other when we were not in the same place at the same time.

Kami (27:27):
That's so sweet.

Eva (27:28):
So I would say one of the boxes is entirely letters from this person.

Kami (27:33):
Oh,

Eva (27:34):
I'm not going to say his name, because you could look him up and see who he is. So I'm going to leave it fuzzy. But I looked at it. That's who Facebook suggested to me. And guess where he works?

Kami (27:47):
Belmont?

Eva (27:49):
Yeah.

Kami (27:49):
No.

Eva (27:50):
Yeah.

Kami (27:52):
That's weird.

Eva (27:53):
It's so weird. So then I looked at what he's doing, and I was like, do I friend request him? Because how come we haven't been friends on Facebook? It's so weird that we're not that. Like maybe there's a reason we're not.

Kami (28:15):
Right. And this is the first time that he's just come across your path on Facebook in all these years?

Eva (28:20):
And we have tons of mutual friends. So maybe his profile was off and it now is on, or something like that. I don't really know.

Kami (28:28):
Weird.

Eva (28:29):
But for whatever reason, all I did was think about Belmont. Maybe it was because I looked on Facebook for Belmont that then Facebook was like, you do know someone.

Kami (28:40):
Was like, oh, you do. Yes. That's exactly what happened.

Eva (28:43):
So anyway, we are Facebook friends now. We have not connected. So my friend requested him, and this is so junior high, and he accepted my friend request.

Kami (28:54):
But you haven't actually talked.

Eva (28:56):
No, but now I know where he is, and if I end up in that town in Nashville where Belmont is, I will definitely reach out and say,

Kami (29:04):
Well, if you're in fucking Nashville, you're coming to Indy. Just saying.

Eva (29:07):
Oh, how far is that?

Kami (29:09):
 It's only a five hour drive. Oh yeah. It's really close.

Eva (29:14):
Yeah. That's amazing. And I love Nashville. I just think it's great. So stay tuned. We'll see if I actually connect on a deeper level with this person. Again, that friendship was super intense.

Kami (29:32):
But you never dated him.

Eva (29:34):
Nope. He dated my friend and this group of friends. This was all of us were in this really short, intense stretch of life together before at the end of college, and then figuring out what you're

Kami (29:49):
On the precipice of your adult life, and that's a really impactful time for people.

Eva (29:56):
There's one other funny one. So after college, when I was went to grad school, and then for about 10 years, I was practicing and auditioning to get a job in a professional orchestra somewhere in the world. And so to do that, you have to save up a lot of money. It's expensive to fly around and do this, and you're going to fail most of the time. And so it's painful. It's a really hard thing to do. And some people get jobs and others don't. And during this 10 year stretch, I realized I didn't really want to do it anyway. I made it the furthest I ever made. It was for the White House Orchestra. It was down to two, three or two people, and I was one of them at the end. And you know why I didn't get it Kami? I was 30 pounds overweight because there was a weight weight requirement to be in the White House Orchestra.

Kami (30:53):
The fuck?

Eva (30:54):
Yeah.

Kami (30:54):
You're lying. That is

Eva (30:56):
I am not lying. It's part of the Marine Corps Corps, the orchestra

Kami (31:00):
Did they put you on the scale. What?

Eva (31:01):
Yeah.

Kami (31:02):
No.

Eva (31:02):
The orchestra is part of the United States Marine Corps. It's the only way to get into the Marines without going to bootcamp.

Kami (31:11):
What instrument did you play, by the way?

Eva (31:13):
Viola? I still do.

Kami (31:16):
That's really cool. I did not know that about you.

Eva (31:19):
Yeah, this whole secret life that I had, not that secret.

Kami (31:24):
Viola is amazing, beautiful instrument. By the way. I'm a huge band geek. Right?

Eva (31:28):
I did not know that about you either.

Kami (31:32):
Yeah.

Eva (31:34):
What was yours?

Kami (31:35):
Oh god. Flute, everything. Flute. Well, of course, flute. Oh, yeah. But I took guitar lessons, piano. My mom is a, I mean, all music was a huge part of our life growing up. I joke about how I grew up in a musical, because anytime any weird ass lyric would come across, my mom would be like, and the hills are alive. She would just start singing.

Eva (32:02):
She still does that.

Kami (32:03):
Oh yeah. She totally does. It's wonderful. Probably the best thing, the best part of growing up was just being around all that music and learning all the different instruments. But yeah, I did it all. That's so crazy. Band geeks for life. Yay. Yay. Alright, so anyways, okay, so you didn't get in because you were too fat. What the fuck?

Eva (32:29):
That kind of broke me. That was as far as I got. And there was another really memorable one, which was I was in Portland and I was in the Oregon Symphony audition, and that they were so far behind. And so what you're trying to do is manage your nerves, which really feels really wild. You can't control being nervous. You have to just, you learn how to manage it, and that's a skillset you don't actually need when you're in an orchestra. It's only a skillset you need for auditioning. And so unless you've done it a ton, and there's a huge problem that I had, which was you do this your whole life, and then at some point you realize you are not good. You think, you used to think you were good, but now you're not good. It's illogical.

Kami (33:16):
Oh, you're like, oh my God, you have immediate imposter syndrome. You're like, I haven't played this piece of music 40,000 fucking times, and I know every note inside out and backwards. And you're like, and you have an identity crisis in about three and a half seconds. Been there.

Eva (33:40):
And so in Portland, I had this complete out-of-body experience where I basically got on the stage in whatever the theater's called in downtown Portland. And the committee was up in the balcony, and they have shields in front of them so you can't see them. You can just see the squares of the people. And my body failed me, and I just completely ate shit.

Kami (34:06):
Oh no.

Eva (34:07):
It wasn't imaginary. It was real. And I didn't even get halfway through the first piece of music and they said, thank you. You've prepared 10 pieces of music to be there. And I played for 20 seconds or something, and I had spent a thousand bucks. And to make that one even worse, I had so much family there. And so they all knew I was there, and they were all rooting for me.

Kami (34:31):
Oh God, that's why you can't tell anybody.

Eva (34:32):
Go back and be like, no, I failed. I totally fell on my face.

Kami (34:37):
Oh geez, Eva.

Eva (34:38):
So that was kind of the end. That was like me saying, I don't think that I want to keep doing this. And at the time, I said, I'm taking a break. And I ended up finding other things that I love to do in that time period, which included digital marketing. And so now I do both, and I have a much better life than the people who only did one thing. They're in bad shape, bad shape. How did we even get on this topic?

Kami (35:10):
I don't know. It doesn't matter.

Eva (35:12):
The friend reconnecting with the friend, he made it in education, not as musician, but I saw that he subbed in the Nashville Symphony, and I was like, that's awesome. That's not easy to do.

Kami (35:24):
No, none of it's easy. None of it.

Eva (35:28):
No, none of it. If you were going to hide that you were taking a GLP-1 from a family member or a spouse or you were close to, how would you do it logistically? Where would you put your medication and how would you hide it?

Kami (35:45):
Oh, well, not all of it has to be refrigerated.

Eva (35:50):
True.

Kami (35:51):
So if it doesn't, you can pretty much hide it anywhere.

Eva (36:00):
But let's, for the purpose of this silly conversation, how would you hide it in the fridge?

Kami (36:10):
Oh, I would probably put it in a old food container that I had cleaned out.

Eva (36:18):
Cottage its cheese.

Kami (36:20):
Like a cottage cheese container or an old yogurt container or something? Probably.

Eva (36:24):
Yeah.

Kami (36:25):
That's probably what I would do. And it depends on how oblivious my partner is.

Eva (36:38):
Would they ever decide the fridge is so dirty that they're going to throw all the old food out and then throw your meds out? I'm sure that's happened to somebody.

Kami (36:45):
God fucking die. I'd be so pissed. I have a very cognizant partner, but he also doesn't give a shit what I do. So there's that.

Eva (37:00):
As it should be. I mean, as long as it's not damaging.

Kami (37:06):
He's like, well, okay, whatever.

Eva (37:08):
I was just trying to imagine not having one friend where you could hide your stuff in their fridge and just run over there once a week. That's another way you could do it. It's like,

Kami (37:21):
Well, I kind of feel like we need to fill the listeners in on a little bit of this story without giving too much away and protecting this person's identity. But long story short, we had a listener write into us saying that she's doing this whole journey by herself.

Eva (37:44):
Wait, you forgot the most important part. We got a medal. She said we were her guilty pleasure, which

Kami (37:50):
Oh,

Eva (37:51):
Pretty much nobody has ever described me as their guilty pleasure.

Kami (37:55):
I feels so good about this. I feel like we were on the next level.

Eva (38:01):
I know. This is so great. Earlier in the day, I was like, who is listening to us? Why is anyone listening to us? And then the universe said, here you go.

Kami (38:13):
Here. So this woman doesn't have a lot weight to lose, but she wants to lose the weight. Okay, fine. And so she's doing all of this on her own. Nobody knows that she is on this journey. And so she listens to our podcast because she doesn't have any other semaglutide or GLP one friends. So we're her friends, which I love and adore, by the way.

Eva (38:44):
Well, it's the point of why we're doing it so that other people doing it don't feel like they're alone.

Kami (38:51):
Yep. That's the whole point. So kudos to you. Get your weight off. Keep us posted on your progress, please.

Eva (39:02):
Yeah. There's other things too that are, I think things I didn't know when I was new to taking it, which you did, just because you're ADHD Kami, which is, you don't really have to take it on the same day every week. You can be a day or two late and nothing will happen.It's totally okay. So if you were going on a trip and you needed to take a shot while you were there, you could shift your days around so that you don't have to take it with you. That's possible.

Kami (39:33):
Yes, definitely. Especially if you don't have a hundred pounds to lose, you'll be fine.

Eva (39:42):
Yeah. Well, okay. That's the other thing you have to hide. Now, if you have a lot of weight to lose and all of a sudden you're losing it and you're not all of a sudden working out, like you're on the TV show, the biggest loser, you probably aren't going to get away with hiding it for very long. Because somebody who lives with you is going to notice that you used to eat like a crazy person before and now you were not eating and you're fine.

Kami (40:08):
All of a sudden overnight had self-discipline.

Eva (40:13):
Yeah, it doesn't.

Kami (40:13):
Not how it works.

Eva (40:16):
That is not, you're going to have to figure out your relationship. I'm sorry,

Kami (40:22):
Somebody's going to have, there's no way to ask some questions. Probably.

Eva (40:27):
 But if you have a little, my esthetician has always been, as long as I've known her, she's been like a size six. She really wanted to be a zero.

Kami (40:38):
Why? I don't understand that. I mean, if I was a size six, I would be feeling like a million dollars. But how tall is she?

Eva (40:53):
Like five four.

Kami (40:55):
If you're five four. And I still think that's too small. I don't know.

Eva (41:04):
Set the question aside and ask yourself if we can judge it, because that's where I get stuck is I do judge it. I go, you're crazy. You don't need to go from six to zero. You look amazing already. But it's her body. So if we want to bring it full circle all the way back to where we started, if you're an adult and you know, can be smaller, I'm not going to stop you. I might disagree.

Kami (41:40):
Right?

Eva (41:43):
I can't stop you anyway.

Kami (41:44):
Well, yeah. But I mean, to each their own, I guess it's all perspective. I mean, I would be asking this person, okay, were you always a size zero and you ballooned up to a size six and you know what I mean? Was zero your standard, but even then at five four, and you're a size zero, you're looking at what would you be? 110 pounds maybe?

Eva (42:23):
Probably.

Kami (42:24):
Okay.

Eva (42:26):
I mean, she had a baby five years ago, so she probably was still wanted to get some of that, those extra pounds off and works in aesthetics. So yeah, the environmental thing is real.

Kami (42:41):
Oh, totally.

Eva (42:41):
It's like how all injectors get too much filler in their face, cuz that's the environment they're in all day. I recently have started thinking it would be nice to not spend this much money on medication every month.

Kami (42:58):
But you'll probably, once you hit your goal weight, will you just lower your dosage and do a maintenance or microdose or whatever?

Eva (43:07):
Yeah. We're going to have to figure that out on another episode. I don't know yet. I know right now, because I've been stalled for so long in this 186, E 7, 187, I'm going to ask if, it was suggested to me by someone who knows really well that it might be worth stopping for a month and then starting again at a lower dose to kind of kickstart. They've been having success with that. And the other thing we're going to look into is she told me they're compounding low dose naltrexone with the GLP one.

Kami (43:44):
What is that?

Eva (43:46):
I don't know. I got to look it up.

Kami (43:47):
Oh, okay.

Eva (43:48):
It's the, I want to say it has to do with cravings. So they use it in the addiction space.

Kami (43:57):
Oh, okay.

Eva (43:57):
They use it to help people quit drinking at higher doses.

Kami (44:00):
Okay.

Eva (44:02):
But I'm not craving or binging.

Kami (44:07):
Yeah. I have been recently, it's been weird because I'm like, I'm in this, I want to eat and nothing sounds good space.

Eva (44:21):
All the time.

Kami (44:22):
It's so weird and I hate it. Last night, even

Eva (44:26):
You know when that happens to me, it's like I want to take the family out for dinner. And we live in Austin, there's probably 2000 restaurants and I'm like,

Kami (44:34):
And every type of food you could possibly imagine. Same here with Indianapolis. I could get any food on the planet delivered to my door, which is I love. But yeah, so last night I had two cheese dogs. Not even in a bun, just regular bread. That's what I ate for dinner.

Eva (45:04):
The hot dogs with cheese injected into them, those? Oh, Good. Good choice.

Kami (45:09):
Yeah, it was. But this is what I have to buy to get my daughter to eat fucking protein. And I got the kids' protein shakes thinking that I could fake some chocolate milk out of it, but she didn't like the aftertaste. You know how aftertaste and the protein gives you that weird aftertaste? She's like, I don't like how it tastes when you're done drinking it. Oh fuck. Okay. So then I was like, let's do smoothies. I was like, oh, I'll get the vanilla one and then I'll blend it up with some strawberries and honey, and then she'll drink a few drinks out of it and be like, I'm done. I'm like, you're not getting all of the nutrients. Okay, kid. So I really do. Got to figure something out.

Eva (46:06):
Have you read or do you follow kids Eat in color? She's really good.

Kami (46:11):
No, but that sounds good.

Eva (46:14):
I think a nutritionist that works with kids on getting them to eat. Okay. I should go do some work.

Kami (46:25):
Oh, well, dang. We've been just running. We just went a long time today. Nice.

Eva (46:30):
Yeah, we had a lot to cover.

Kami (46:32):
So much. So much.

Eva (46:33):
Thanks to your ex-husband and my long lost friend in the middle.

Kami (46:36):
Yeah. Weird. So weird. And now we need to start a band, obviously.

Eva (46:43):
Oh. Obviously with Debra.

Kami (46:50):
Debra just ties it all together in a big bow.

Eva (46:54):
Always.

Kami (46:55):
Oh my god.

Eva (46:55):
I love her.

Kami (46:56):
Okay. Alright friend. Well, I love you the most.

Eva (46:59):
Love you too.

Kami (47:02):
We'll do this again soon.

Eva (47:05):
Yes. We will.

Kami (47:06):
And stay listening. Keep it real people.

Eva (47:08):
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