Do GLP-1s Help With Binge Eating?

Eva (00:00:00):
Welcome back to Less of You. This is not Kami. This is my very new friend, Ashley Miller. Hi, Ashley.

Ashley (00:00:07):
Hello. Nice to be here.

Eva (00:00:09):
Okay, so I want to explain what you're doing here to the audience, because this is usually me and Kami who are kind of snarky and a little bit sometimes off color. And the way that we started that podcast or this podcast, Less of ou, was that she started taking some glide and I was a year in, and so I had already lost, I think I was maybe had lost 70 pounds when we started recording and she was at zero. And now we've been talking for a year, and every week or every other week, we report our current weight, our starting weight, and our goal weight, and talk about all the ridiculous things that are happening in our lives. So

Ashley (00:00:50):
Awesome.

Eva (00:00:51):
Today, I thought you might be a great look into the future because I was a year ahead of Kami, and now I feel like maybe you're kind of a year ahead of me because you've already had surgery and I want to hear all about that.

Ashley (00:01:01):
Okay, great. Happy too.

Eva (00:01:03):
Let's go back to the beginning.

Ashley (00:01:05):
Okay.

Eva (00:01:06):
Okay. Tell us a little bit about you.

Ashley (00:01:11):
Well, I am a woman first and foremost. I am happy to be embracing that a little bit more. I have been in corporate America for about 17 years, and I have been in a man's world, so I am really trying to step into this new place. I'm a mom, a bonus mom. I have a partner that I have known since, gosh, sixth grade. We reconnected because of the shot that I have been on. That's a whole other story. And I've recently lost 125 pounds for the first time in my life. That's a significant number. And I decided to go ahead and have plastic surgery to really kind of make that what I feel on the inside be displayed a bit on the outside.

Eva (00:02:03):
I feel like you're leaving a lot out of the story here.

Ashley (00:02:06):
There's a lot to the story. I'm not going to lie to you. Trying to summarize it for you.

Eva (00:02:14):
Do you remember how old you were when you started thinking you were overweight?

Ashley (00:02:18):
It was at a younger age because I was developed a bit sooner, I think, than most of my friends. And I think I was always bigger, but not necessarily overweight. I look back at that time, probably in high school when I started to have to get physicals and my weight was a bit different than my teammates. And I was active, so it wasn't just glaring. But I did stop playing softball and volleyball my junior year of high school and started dating a football player who was the center and the O line. And he liked to eat and I liked to eat. And without the activity, I started to gain the weight. So I would say it was in high school when it really started to come to the surface. And I love my mom dearly very, very much, but parents, especially mothers and daughters, it was called to attention very frequently.

Eva (00:03:16):
Yeah. I have a 7-year-old. This morning, she is super smart. She was harassing me about why I won't buy whole milk anymore and why did I switch to 2%? And I said, I don't have a good answer for her. Right. I'm stuck, because I can see

Ashley (00:03:36):
How does she know the difference. That's lovely.

Eva (00:03:40):
She's sharp.

Ashley (00:03:41):
Yeah,

Eva (00:03:43):
They love their milk. She was drinking 5, 6, 8 cups of milk a day, and I'm looking at the calories.

Ashley (00:03:51):
You're like, okay.

Eva (00:03:53):
And so she said, are you not letting me drink milk because you think I'm going to get fat? And I was like, oh my God.

Ashley (00:04:00):
Well, if you'll allow me, I have this story that just happened to me with my daughter, she's 10. And I took her for a physical because she's going to overnight camp and on the form, which I don't know why they have this, but they have this area that says, do you want to weigh more or less? And my mother had taken her. I wasn't actually with her at the time, so my mother had taken her and she let her fill out the form. And guess what my daughter said?

Eva (00:04:28):
Less.

Ashley (00:04:29):
She wants to weigh less. And she's like, me, she's, she's a cheerleader. She plays volleyball. She's very strong. She is about to hit that puberty stage. It's coming. But it just tore me up. It broke my heart seeing that.

Eva (00:04:45):
Why is this even on this form though?

Ashley (00:04:48):
That's the real question is why would a school district or a camp form or anything, why is it on the form? And it's a common form because it's used for camp and our school district to play. So I'm like, this is a common question. I know. I know. I guess the parents are usually feeling it out and I would not have chosen anything, but still it just broke my heart. Cuz she's gorgeous. She's perfect the way she is. And it just starts so young. Starts so young.

Eva (00:05:21):
Well, what's the difference? We're going to get all philosophical here, between making sure they're like not overeating. There's no health benefit to having eight cups of milk a day child.

Ashley (00:05:34):
Yeah,

Eva (00:05:35):
Pretty sure two or three is fine.

Ashley (00:05:37):
It's fine. You try the best that you can, right? I mean, with all of parenting, but it's the pressure. I don't know I think it has something to do with some of the stuff that they're exposed to. I mean, I got it from family, but I didn't necessarily get it shoved down my face in every television show and every avenue with friends. And I don't know. It's just so much pressure.

Eva (00:06:05):
It's a lot. Another thing you and I have in common is my high school boyfriend was a six foot eight basketball center.

Ashley (00:06:11):
Oh gosh.

Eva (00:06:12):
And he ate a lot.

Ashley (00:06:13):
He ate a lot. I could see that. I could see that. Yeah, it was very tough. That's kind of when I started, and I realize now, that's when my binge eating really began. I started to eat in secret, eat to discomfort, eat two dinners, that kind of thing. It really started, it started in high school. The moment I had access to my own vehicle and I could go drive through a fast food restaurant was really, I think when the binging started.

Eva (00:06:44):
Did you have a routine?

Ashley (00:06:46):
I had a routine and I played with it, mastered it over the years. And depending on where I was, I actually lived in California, so they had this place called Carl's Jr. And I would go there a lot. I liked their ranch dressing and chicken, and I would do that. I'd go to McDonald's, Jack in the Box. I mean, you name it. I've eaten so much fast food. And then when I just recently, I actually kind of came back into my life after I had surgery, and it was mainly just junk food at the little convenience store at the bottom of the office. So it's, it's been tough.

Eva (00:07:30):
I'm pretty sure on our last episode, I told a story about having to get Whataburger. I had to,

Ashley (00:07:37):
Yes. I think I listened to that one. Yes.

Eva (00:07:39):
Did you really?

Ashley (00:07:39):
Yeah, I did.

Eva (00:07:41):
Oh, I learned my lesson.

Ashley (00:07:44):
The greasy fries, right? Well, maybe not greasy, but it me just the fries. Got you. Yeah.

Eva (00:07:49):
Yep. I'm sure it was the fries. Won't do that again.

Ashley (00:07:54):
Yeah, it's tough. I definitely don't eat like that anymore. I get sick.

Eva (00:08:00):
Yeah, I do too. Okay, so how long have you been on the medication now?

Ashley (00:08:04):
So I started the GLP one in March of 2023. So I have been on it for maybe two years and a couple months, two years. And some change. It's been on it a hot minute.

Eva (00:08:18):
So you and I started pretty much at the same time. I think I started in February of 23.

Ashley (00:08:23):
Oh, did you? Okay.

Eva (00:08:25):
Yeah.

Ashley (00:08:26):
Did you start on the skinny shot or the semaglutide and then move? Yeah. Okay. Are you still on Semaglutide or did you move over to tirzepatide?

Eva (00:08:34):
No, I'm on tirzepatide

Ashley (00:08:36):
Me too.

Eva (00:08:36):
And I just had an appointment this week and we figured out how am I going to stay on it of all the changes.

Ashley (00:08:44):
Yes, I know

Eva (00:08:45):
I did that. And yeah, I mean, it's slow. It goes slow now that I'm close to the end, but I don't ever want to be without it. I mean, are you feeling that way too? Please don't take it away from me.

Ashley (00:09:00):
I've tried everything. I mean, I have tried Weight Watchers, keto, Atkins, Mediterranean Diet, a shake. I had weight loss surgery in 2012. I mean,

Eva (00:09:16):
You had surgery?

Ashley (00:09:16):
I did. I had the sleeve back in 2012, and I kept off probably a good, I would say 90 to a hundred pounds for a good five years. And then I went to my doctor's office, my surgeon, and she basically sat there and said, you're a success. I mean, you're a success patient. And there's something in my brain that kind of goes into that praise reward.

Eva (00:09:46):
Oh no, she told you you did a good job.

Ashley (00:09:48):
Yeah, binge and then restrict. And it's just that cycle that,

Eva (00:09:53):
Did you go out to celebrate that night?

Ashley (00:09:55):
I did. And I think over the next five years, I ballooned back over 300 pounds. So I really have tried everything. And this is the first time that I actually feel like, oh wow. Oh, is this how other people's brains work? There's so much capacity for other things rather than just food. So I definitely do not want, I do not want to come off this medication. Do I want to be on a high dosage like I am now? I'm still trying to lose. No, but I don't want it taken away from me. I mean, definitely I had a surgery, you come off of it a couple weeks before you have surgery, and then you're off of it after and recovering. And by that fourth week, I was sending a little note to Dr. B, asking him, Hey, hey, hey, hey. I'm feeling it come back. I can feel that noise. Am I healed enough to where I can get back on the shot? He said, yes.

Eva (00:11:01):
So for the audience, Dr. B is Dr. Basu, who is our, our plastic surgeon friend in Cypress in Houston. And I have known Dr. B since I was much, much younger. Let's just put it that way.

Ashley (00:11:18):
I love that.

Eva (00:11:19):
We've been working together since the mid two thousands, I think.

Ashley (00:11:22):
Oh gosh, I love that.

Eva (00:11:24):
So we go back a ways, and I think he was up here in Austin and visiting the practice where I get my skinny shots.

Ashley (00:11:36):
I see, okay.

Eva (00:11:38):
And I helped him with a lot of the background info on getting the program ready. So you may have been one of the first patients, and I was behind the scenes getting all of that together.

Ashley (00:11:47):
Getting it ready.

Eva (00:11:48):
Yeah.

Ashley (00:11:50):
I found Dr. Basu from, I was struggling. I was about to turn 40, and that was a big milestone for me. And I thought, you know what? Gosh, how did I get myself back here? I had surgery. How did I learn to trick this tool? And I was over 300 pounds, and I must've been being self-deprecating, talking about myself to one of my friends and good old Instagram heard me and started serving me some ads about face tightening and necklace, kind of a neck, neck tight. And it was Dr. B and I started down this rabbit hole, what is this? Non-invasive, Morpheus and lipo. And I thought, well, if I can't lose the weight, I haven't been successful thus far. Here we are again. Maybe I can just get my double chin removed. So I made an appointment in late 2022 and came to see him.

Eva (00:12:59):
You came in for your neck?

Ashley (00:13:00):
I came in for my neck, and I actually had the procedure right after I turned 40 in January, and I had to come in for a couple more treatments. And by this time I'm engrossed in the Insta page and I'm hearing all of the new promos and specials, and I turned 40. So I'm like, oh, I got to start everything. I got to go do Botox, I got to do this, I got to do this. And I started just kind of, how can I improve myself, make myself feel good, even at 300 pounds. And they started promoting the skinny shot, and I went,

Eva (00:13:33):
That was me.

Ashley (00:13:34):
Well, wonderful.

Eva (00:13:35):
Well, I started promoting it to you. That was me.

Ashley (00:13:37):
Thank you. I got served and I was a patient already and at the office, and I thought, you know what? I'll try it. My stylist at the time, she's a dear friend of mine. She had been super vocal. She had been on Mounjaro for two and a half years at this point, and she looked fabulous. She was going through her plastic surgery journey at the time. She was just one of those people that talked about it. She was screaming it from the rooftops, which I just loved, because not everybody does that. And they might be a little quiet on their journey, which is fine, it's nobody's business. But she was just very open. And then my dad actually, he had high A1C, so he started taking Trulicity, and I watched him lose some weight. And so by the time I was here in the office and I could see it everywhere, I happened to be, I think with Dr. B, and he said, I'm trying it. I thought, well, okay, well if you're trying it. And I've had these people in my community, what the hell? I'll try it.

Eva (00:14:46):
What do you have to lose at that point?

Ashley (00:14:48):
I didn't have anything. So I said, I'll try it. And I'll never forget, I had an appointment with Susan, who's one of the nurses here, and I had also separately been working with this coach, and I was trying to work on the binging. So I was really doing this program called Brain Over Binge. I was doing this workbook, trying to work with my brain and the receptors and all these different synapses and stuff. And so at the time, I had really learned the key thing with binge eating disorder was restriction. So if you restrict, it's usually going to lead you to that cycle of binging. So when I came in with Susan and had my skinny shot appointment, she's telling me, you got to eat high protein. You got to eat low carb. You want to stay away from sugary stuff. And I was like, oh, Susan, because at this point, I'd already seen her a couple times.

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And I said, I love you, but I'm not doing any of that. I'm just going to be really honest with you. The only thing I'm going to do is give myself a shot each week. I have no interest in changing my diet. Restricting for me turns into binging, and I'm trying to conquer that. That's one of my goals for this year. So I'm not doing that. And she's like, well, Ashley, if you want, I said, I'm going to give myself a shot. That's it. That's what I'm going to do. We're going to see if this works. Super skeptical. Didn't think it was going to work. And I noticed probably within two or three months, I hadn't lost a lot of weight, but I was like, oh, okay. What? I'm not thinking about food as much. I started,

Eva (00:16:22):
It took you two or three months? Did you notice anything immediately or not really?

Ashley (00:16:26):
Not really. It took me two or three months. I started on the lowest dosage. It took me two months, I think before the food noise really quieted down.

Eva (00:16:36):
In my memory, the food noise thing. It's almost like a learned behavior that you think about food for so long that at some point you realize you don't have to anymore and you have to kind of retrain your brain.

Ashley (00:16:51):
And that's what that brain over binge kind of workbook was like, okay, you've got to break it when you think these are things you replace it with. It was just this whole program. I had gone far enough there that as I started taking the skinny shot, I thought, okay, I'm starting to put two and two together. And though I didn't continue with the program because by six months I think I was down 50 pounds, and that was, I yoyo. I mean, gosh, I have I yo yoed my whole life, my whole adult life. And again, that cycle of I'd lose 25, 30 pounds, somebody would comment, Hey, you look like you're losing weight. Oh, I get a reward. Let me have a little treat, treat myself. Turns into Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, I'll start again on Monday. Oh, I already messed up. And then I'd eventually get it together, try something new, whatever new program, and then I would restrict and then I would binge and just the cycle and cycle.

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And for the first time, I hadn't binged in six months and I hadn't done that in 20 years. Even after I had weight loss surgery, I still managed to binge. So that's when I knew, hey, this is something different. And I know I think Dr. B talked about it on one of his episodes too. All that stuff Susan was telling me, it came to bite me. I mean, at the end of the day, I remember eating, I think it was pizza, and my portions became smaller. Obviously I was fuller quicker. But then I was like, man, I don't feel good. And I would get nauseous and super nauseous. So I started to see, okay, well when I eat protein and I have a nice balanced meal, I don't feel sick. So it kind of forced me into that realm. And for the first time, I knew what to eat. With all these diets, you learn everything. You learn what to eat, how to eat. I can tell you how many calories are in something, how many Weight Watchers points. I can do all of it. For the first time, I was able to kind of take that information, that knowledge that I had learned over the years and apply it and not feel restricted. I wasn't thinking about it. It became fuel, it became mechanical. And

Eva (00:19:19):
Yeah, I see, yesterday or the day before, I saw this whole Weight Watchers press release that was 10 new zero point foods. And I was like, you all lie. There is no such thing as a zero point food. If you gave me a zero point food, I would just eat 800 of those.

Ashley (00:19:37):
I know. Did you ever have the zero point soup, the veggie soup? The big, I still think today and points. I see a food and I think I probably has six or maybe, maybe eight.

Eva (00:19:57):
Wow, you were hunted for a long time. I don't do that. I do have a really good friend who was a leader, and he can list those zero point foods from memory really fast.

Ashley (00:20:10):
It's a lot the culture that diet culture is a lot. I have a lot of feelings about the shot, to be really honest with you. I'm such an advocate and I'm very vocal. I was not vocal when I had weight loss surgery. It was almost like I was ashamed. And so I didn't tell a lot of people outside of my circle. And I feel like with the shot, I mean someone compliments me. It's not that I'm taking away that compliment, but I'm just like, oh, it's the shot. Changed my life, changed my life just immediately because I don't want to keep it quiet because I feel like there's so many people that could benefit. And as I've been on this journey and sharing my journey, there've been so many people that have reached out to me and said like, Hey, I just want to let you know, you sharing pushed me to go to the doctor. I had one person tell me, Hey, listen, I had a medical issue. You saved my life because I was getting tests to go on the shot. And for me, that makes it all worth it.

Eva (00:21:08):
I've had many strangers, but also I think the most interesting thing is how many people from my younger life, people I went to college with or right after who have run across the show and listened and then texted me privately to ask a question. Or as recently as yesterday, I was talking to a friend about, she's trying to figure out where can I get this without spending so much like they all want my money.

Ashley (00:21:33):
Yeah, they do.

Eva (00:21:34):
Well, it's not free. And I like to point out, you're going to spend less on food than you will on this medicine.

Ashley (00:21:42):
You will. At the end of the day. Also, I mean, think about how many, and I'm not sure your stats, but for me,

Eva (00:21:51):
We do 'em on every episode. We can totally do them.

Ashley (00:21:53):
Yeah. Well, I just feel like I don't, all these comorbidities that my life was headed into and how much money I was going to spend on those, at some point you just got to where do you want your money to go?

Eva (00:22:08):
Yeah. Dr. Basu said to me the other day that I got myself 10 more years of my own life back.

Ashley (00:22:14):
I believe that, I mean, I've gone off my high blood pressure medication. I've gone off all my labs for the first time and cholesterol. It's just, it's almost like why did I wait so long? Well, there wasn't something available until now. I do believe this is a weight loss revolution. I really believe that in my heart.

Eva (00:22:39):
I agree with you. Yes. I know so much of what you've said is exactly the same experience I've had, except I want to ask you more if you're willing to talk about the binging a little bit and what it actually looks like, because this is a piece of it that I haven't really confronted very well for myself that that's what I was doing. And I can think of times where I did it. I've told the story of when I had a really, really skinny boyfriend when I lived in Houston, and if I ate in front of him, he would always comment. And so what did I do?

Ashley (00:23:15):
Didn't eat in front of him. Ate in secret.

Eva (00:23:17):
That's right. And the McDonald's was like a short loop from our apartment. And so I'd go get a number two and I would shove the whole thing in my mouth and drive around the block and then come home.

Ashley (00:23:30):
Come home.

Eva (00:23:30):
So he couldn't see me eat it.

Ashley (00:23:33):
So definitely the secrecy, I think for sure is a big piece. I also think I was really young, I remember thinking it's almost like it is an addiction. And I would, my mom and dad, they took out the trash, but I would dump my trash in the outside bin. I would dump my fast food, my first dinner into the outside trash can thinking, oh, they're not going to see all of these McDonald's bags or jack in the box bags. But it's because I think a lot of it was the commentary, oh, you're going to go out like that. So then there's something I think with people, I don't want to blame others. I think it stems somewhat from inside of you. And my understanding, at least from all of my work and my therapy and all of it, is that sometimes it's tied to anxiety and depression as well.

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And I was living a bit of a double life, very happy at work, very confident, but secretly eating. And I think it's things like people like, oh, when I'm with you, you don't eat bad. You eat great. So I don't understand why you're overweight. It's just these comments that perpetuate. So then it just becomes a secrecy thing. I think the difference between that addiction to food and eating in secret versus binging is I've had so many people tell me, well just stock up on great food and binge good stuff. And there was this ice cream. Do you remember Skinny Cow? The ice cream sandwiches. I would stock up on all of the good stuff, right? And not saying that was good, but that was better than a whole gallon of Bluebell.

Eva (00:25:23):
I just was at Target looking at the halo top, like, ew. But I would get that so I could eat the whole thing.

Ashley (00:25:30):
But it's almost the quantity versus what you're eating. So

Eva (00:25:35):
Did you ever run across the book called Volumetrics? Did you show that one?

Ashley (00:25:38):
No. Oh gosh.

Eva (00:25:40):
That theory was like eat really low calorie, giant food, like large food.

Ashley (00:25:45):
Large food.

Eva (00:25:46):
So that you feel full with the least amount of calories and trick your body into thinking that you're full.

Ashley (00:25:52):
You're full. I think I remember that's similar to the veggies first movement, eat as

Eva (00:25:58):
Drink a big glass of water and eat a salad before you eat your meal.

Ashley (00:26:01):
Before anything else. Yeah. Binging for me just became, you eat until discomfort. And that was something that, I mean, gosh, just a little over two years ago I was still doing, and what triggered it? There's multiple different things that have happened. You know what I mean? And I can certainly talk about some of those, but a lot of it comes from people's comments to me and how I internalized it and equated it to my self-worth. So there's still so much work that I have to do. And it's a work in progress, I feel like all the time.

Eva (00:26:41):
I work a lot of it out on this show.

Ashley (00:26:45):
It has to be therapeutic.

Eva (00:26:47):
Yeah. Telling thousands of people I don't know things about, which you're doing right now with me, so thank you, Ashley.

Ashley (00:26:54):
Of course.

Eva (00:26:59):
How did you get to the point where we've been doing this the same amount of time, but you were ready to have surgery much sooner than I am. Why did you decide now I'm going to do it?

Ashley (00:27:10):
I was here and I come to Dr. B's office every month and for my update, and I think I'm just around it a little bit, and I have really started to invest in myself and that self-care. And I always knew that no matter what my arms were going, no matter what, that was the one thing that no matter how much weight I would lose, my arms were so unproportionate to the rest of my body. And it was my biggest insecurity, the thing that I think drove me for so long and my choices, my outfits and everything that I was going to wear. So I thought, well, I could do my arms. I'm 15 pounds away from goal weight. At least I could do my arms. And so I made an appointment for a consultation, and I really trust Dr. B at this point. I've been a loyal patient for two years plus.

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I'm like, you just tell me what you think. And he's like, you've lost enough weight. You're barely in a BMI in an overweight BMI. You're good, your body, it won't make a difference if you lose 15 more pounds with the way you are. He was like, we can do a lower body lift and we can do an arm lift at the same time. So I stood there like a specimen and completely nude, and let him tell me his recommendations. And we decided to go with the arms first with the lower body lift and the abdominoplasty. So I couldn't be more thrilled.

Eva (00:28:51):
I spend a lot of time in this subject matter.

Ashley (00:28:54):
You do you? Yes.

Eva (00:28:54):
Plastic, plastic surgery and weight loss. And I have because it's been my job for so long.

Ashley (00:28:59):
Yes.

Eva (00:28:59):
But I saw this headline the other day, and it made me cackle out loud from CNN. It says in 2022, the year after the first GLP one was approved, breast lifts and tummy tucks increased 30 and 37%. Upper arm lifts to get rid of flapping skin, sometimes called angel wings.

Ashley (00:29:25):
I called 'em my bingo wings. Bingo.

Eva (00:29:26):
Literally no one ever has called them angel wings.

Ashley (00:29:28):
Angel wings.

Eva (00:29:30):
So sorry, CNN, and stop trying to make fetch happen over here. Please what? Angel wings. No,

Ashley (00:29:39):
No, never. Bat wings. Bat wings. I think they mistook it. It was bat wings.

Eva (00:29:48):
Sometimes pterodactyl wings.

Ashley (00:29:51):
Yes.

Eva (00:29:53):
I just was like, you got to be kidding me.

Ashley (00:29:55):
But they increased. Yeah, I could see that.

Eva (00:29:59):
Oh yeah. And another funny stat is that men never have an arm lift. They just don't do it.

Ashley (00:30:06):
They just bulk up. Right.

Eva (00:30:09):
I guess. But then I was like, why couldn't I just make my biceps and my triceps larger and then not get an arm lift? And someone was like, it doesn't work that way. Why not?

Ashley (00:30:19):
Yeah, definitely. The arm was something there was nothing I could do.

Eva (00:30:26):
How do they look now? Can you show us?

Ashley (00:30:28):
Oh yeah. I just had my first scar, so it's hard for me to show you now because it's super red. I literally just came,

Eva (00:30:38):
How long ago was that?

Ashley (00:30:40):
Like 20 minutes.

Eva (00:30:41):
Well, you had surgery, but you have microneedling on your arm.

Ashley (00:30:43):
Yeah, microneedling and then the Erbium laser. And so I just walked out of the treatment. So it's going to be red for a couple more days.

Eva (00:30:50):
Does it hurt?

Ashley (00:30:52):
The microneedling is not pleasant, but it's numb and you suffer through it. So I did Morpheus when I had that face tightening procedure. So I feel like they always tell you, if you can do that, then you can do this.

Eva (00:31:09):
That's true.

Ashley (00:31:10):
Yeah.

Eva (00:31:11):
Yes.

Ashley (00:31:11):
But it's nine weeks today. I'm nine weeks post-op today.

Eva (00:31:15):
And I took a look at your Instagram. I mean, you've been kind of documenting your progress. It's cool to see that.

Ashley (00:31:21):
I did. I've probably lightened up just a bit. It's a lot for me. I am not an influencer or anything like that. I do love to publicly speak in my corporate world and in my private life and everything. But my surgery actually got rescheduled. I had a medical issue that happened. I was supposed to have March 3rd and it got rescheduled, and I try to reframe everything now. So if something bad happens and I'm not able to do something, how can I reframe it? And so I thought, you know what? Maybe I'll do a little document series. Maybe I'll try to do pre-op the things you do to get ready for it and then post-op what it really looks like from my perspective. And it's been awesome because not only I've just had so many people just message me, thank you. But I actually had one of Dr. B's patients reach out to me. She was 17 days ahead of me.

(00:32:19):
And she had a tummy tuck and she reached out and she's like a kindred spirit at this point. She lives in Oklahoma and things like that. It just make you go like, okay, there was a reason. There was a reason I didn't have surgery that date. It got postponed. It gave me the opportunity to kind of be more vocal about it and shared my story and I got a friend out of it. You know what I mean? Not only did I get a new body, but I got a really good friend from it. And it's been awesome. I've really enjoyed it.

Eva (00:32:52):
So are you planning on another surgery too?

Ashley (00:32:55):
Yeah, I'll definitely, my six week post op I went in and I was like, okay, so what's next? I don't think a lot of folks are like that at six weeks. But the one thing that surprised me the most about surgery was how if you take your recovery seriously, how quickly your body can recover from such trauma. And it just kind of shocked me. So I thought, okay, I can do this. And they've told me, a lot of folks have said that having the lower body lift with the muscle repair is the most painful one of the types of plastic surgeries. You probably have heard that hopefully. Hopefully that's not people just telling me that, but so I am like, okay, well if I can recover from that one, then I can have another one. So I probably will do a breast lift. And we talked about doing a bit of the inner thigh lift at the same time, but when I went for my six weeks appointment, he was like, listen, I want you to go enjoy the summer.

(00:33:57):
Okay, go enjoy the summer and then come back to me. We could talk about it in the fall. And so I probably will do the breast lift over a weekend or something. And then he said, let's see what we can do with the thighs before you do the thigh lift. He's like, it's a little bit more complicated. It's not as painful, but because of gravity, there's more risk. And he's like, let's see what we can do. Start street training. Which I mean, who do you know that is like, no, don't come back for plastic surgery. I appreciate him so much because I do feel like he's looking out for me and he's looking at me specifically and the success that I've had or how my body heals. And he's like, Hey, let's see what we can do without having to do that. Which I mean, that just makes me so much more loyal.

Eva (00:34:47):
Yeah, he is very candid.

Ashley (00:34:50):
Yeah. Oh my gosh. I love to try to make him break. I try to make him smile and make, he smiles, but I try to get him, he's so business. And then when he's looking at you, it's his piece of work. It his, it's his work. And so I try to mess with them. I was like, Hey, when are you coming to build an office in Katy? It's far for me to drive over here. And so he gets excited. Well,

Eva (00:35:18):
Don't encourage him, Ashley. That's a lot of work for the rest of us. If he opens Katy.

Ashley (00:35:24):
Well, I'm sorry. I was like, use me, man. I will help. I was like, it's a good little area, but I try to with anybody, if you're very business, I'm like, Ooh, I need to figure out how to soften you a little bit. So I do like him .

Eva (00:35:40):
Between when you, okay, you had gastric had a sleeve, gastric sleeve.

Ashley (00:35:44):
2012.

Eva (00:35:45):
And then you gained it all back by 2017.

Ashley (00:35:51):
2017 was my year of success. And then slowly,

Eva (00:35:54):
That was when she declared we won the war.

Ashley (00:35:57):
Yes, exactly.

Eva (00:35:58):
And then you started gaining again. So between 2017 and when did you get back to your top

Ashley (00:36:04):
And I guess 2023 I weighed 311 pounds. So when I came in for skinny shot, that's my weight. It wasn't my highest weight before the gastric sleeve. I was 324 for that.

Eva (00:36:20):
I never got quite that high, but I was in the two eighties and when I had both my kids, I crossed the 300 mark. I remember how that felt.

Ashley (00:36:29):
It's a lot. You don't realize how much, it's just little. I'm sure you experienced this. I mean, it's freaking hot right now, right?

Eva (00:36:38):
It is hot. I do remember having some, my daughter was born in September, so I remember being pretty miserable that July, August.

Ashley (00:36:48):
But I'm not as miserable now.

Eva (00:36:51):
No, it's not that bad. I'm fine.

Ashley (00:36:53):
It is almost like, oh, I'm cold all the time.

Eva (00:36:58):
Oh, that's one of the funniest ones is like, you see me, I'm in my house wearing a hoodie, and I'll be in here shivering, and I'll be like, he must have turned the air down again. And so we have this daily battle between 71 and 74.

Ashley (00:37:14):
Oh, ours is 71 and 73.

Eva (00:37:17):
Sometimes I can do 73, but it's crazy. And I think to myself, I used to sometimes turn it down to 69. I was too hot at 70.

Ashley (00:37:29):
And just the walking around your house, doing your chores, doing the laundry, doing stuff, just used to be exhausting. And

Eva (00:37:39):
I once ran up the stairs at church, and when I got to the top, I was like, what just happened? Did I just run up the stairs?

Ashley (00:37:48):
And I'm okay? And I'm not, you know what I used to do? I used to fake cough.

Eva (00:37:53):
Well, yesterday we went to see this pigeon, don't let the pigeon drive the bus musical.

Ashley (00:37:58):
Okay.

Eva (00:37:59):
Okay, dear. It's a kid's book by Mo Williams. It's really cute. And it takes a lot, first of all, to turn a three minute book into a 50 minute musical.

Ashley (00:38:09):
Lovely.

Eva (00:38:09):
Okay. So there's a bunch of bird characters. There's a puppeteer playing the pigeon, but the other main character is this bus driver. And this woman was probably 350 pounds, and she had to do a singing and dancing number where she was very active. And when the number ended, I could hear it in her microphone she was going (heavy breathing). And I was like, oh, so sad for you.

Ashley (00:38:33):
Do you have more grace for people now? I feel like I have a little more grace. I don't want to say that I'm a different person. I just am more vocal and I have more grace and I want to go over the top for people that are still in this situation where it's affecting their daily lives. It affected my daily life.

Eva (00:39:01):
Have you seen the meme where the woman, it's two pictures of herself, but she's like, me, what I thought I looked like when she was heavy, but it's the thin picture and what I think I look like now, and it's the heavy picture. I think that's the most important point about somebody like this poor woman who was in this musical is she still is in the place we used to be where we don't think it's that bad.

Ashley (00:39:29):
I know. And I don't know unless I had, I didn't have a bit of a wake up call, but I kind of did. My number started getting pretty out of control. I'd avoid the doctor. I didn't have a primary care doctor for years because I didn't want to have to go and have somebody tell me that you need to eat less, exercise more, and you should be fine. So it's just so hard.

Eva (00:39:56):
Okay, so what have we not talked about? I feel like I've known you my whole life, Ashley. And it really, from the marketing work that I do, I always visualize myself on the other end. And so maybe the reason that you were attracted to Basu is I was trying to get you to come there.

Ashley (00:40:15):
You did.

Eva (00:40:16):
The way that we approached, the way the marketing is built, and

Ashley (00:40:21):
Well, I will just tell you this. I was intimidated coming into the facility the first time because you're looking at so many beautiful women around. The staff is gorgeous.

Eva (00:40:36):
They are really pretty.

Ashley (00:40:37):
I mean gorgeous. But what I realized pretty early on was they were kind and supportive. And I've had several, I've worked with a lot of the nurses now at this point I've had done so much. But everybody's going through something and you never know what's going on with anyone else.

Eva (00:41:02):
What would you tell somebody? You probably do this every day, who's thinking about doing the skinny shot and hasn't quite made the decision to try it?

Ashley (00:41:12):
I generally always start with, listen, I'm not a doctor, but I would recommend that you go see a doctor. It doesn't have to be your primary care. I mean, my primary care, the first time two years ago when I went, she was judging me. She wanted me, me to go on Methodist's weight loss shake program.

Eva (00:41:36):
The shakes? Yes.

Ashley (00:41:37):
Yes. So she was judging me.

Eva (00:41:39):
I have to tell you a side story about that one. I had a friend whose mother worked in a medical office and she tried every diet on the planet and they loved the Methodist medical weight loss program. And one day I heard secondhand that she'd gone into the office and that they were always kind of nagging at the doctors about how to lose weight. And one day she said to one of the doctors, how do I lose? How do I lose this weight? What do I do? And he said, stop eating. Not really about the Methodist program, but it brought it all back for me. Don't eat so much.

Ashley (00:42:23):
But I do feel like the doctors have done a pretty crappy job.

Eva (00:42:29):
They have.

Ashley (00:42:31):
I don't know. Have you read the book, the Ozempic Revolution?

Eva (00:42:37):
No, I haven't. I know which one you're talking about.

Ashley (00:42:39):
It's lovely. I will say I wish I had that. I had read it. I just read it about six months ago, but I wish I had read it before I started the shot. So I guess what I tell people is if they're curious, I'm like, Hey, talk to a doctor and it doesn't have to be your primary care. Get this book. I really like the book. It is great from an information standpoint, and I think it does a good job of saying, Hey, we've had it all wrong for a long time, and it's okay to accept help.

Eva (00:43:16):
Well, you and I knew they had it all wrong for a long time.

Ashley (00:43:19):
But I didn't believe that. Right? Because I wasn't being told that. I felt like I knew in my heart, this can't be normal. What's wrong with me?

Eva (00:43:27):
How can it be this hard?

Ashley (00:43:28):
Yeah. How can I not be successful over and over and over again because I'm so successful in my work life. You have this, that's where I had this double life thing going on. So happy, so bubbly work was just so great. Living in California, all of these things. But in reality, I was stopping at Carl's Jr. on the way home, binge eating my food.

Eva (00:43:57):
Would you say you're the same person all the time now instead of two different people?

Ashley (00:44:03):
Yes, though I still pick. I mean, I just improved myself, right? I feel so confident some days. And I feel like it matches, right? What's on the inside, it matches on the outside. And this is my friend Julie, the one that I met, the other patient I had sent her some photos from. I had just dropped my daughter off at overnight camp, and I wore this short set. It was very bright blue, very summer, and it showed off my arms. And I was wearing shorts, which those are two things I wasn't doing when I was heavy. And I sat there and I was like, now I want to do my thighs. I can't stand my thighs. I am picking, do you think I have lypedemia? What is? And she just goes, Hey, stop. You got to enjoy the journey. You listen to the doctor. He said, there are things you can do for your thighs. Get strength training, turn it into, but stop picking at yourself. You're beautiful. Just be happy.

Eva (00:45:09):
She's right.

Ashley (00:45:10):
I know. She's like, do you think that somebody defines you as, oh God, look at her thighs. No, they're not. And for people who do, you don't want them in your life anyway,

Eva (00:45:20):
No, you don't.

Ashley (00:45:21):
So that part, I still, and the body dysmorphia, like what you talked about with those pictures, oh my gosh. This weekend, it's like I had this one shot that my brother had taken of me, and I was in shorts and a tank top sitting down, which I never sat down for a picture. Like, no, nope. I'm standing up, I'm in the middle. I had my thing, but I'm sitting down and I'm like this and I have a tank on. And I was like, wow, that's me. And literally

Eva (00:45:53):
Speaking of sitting down. Do you have that picture by any chance?

Ashley (00:45:58):
I do. Yes. What you getting?

Eva (00:46:04):
I just was organizing. And it is funny that I just ran into this one. I was sitting down with my daughter and she looks like she's about one and a half or two. We're with the Easter bunny at Cabela's.

Ashley (00:46:25):
Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh wow. Look at you.

Eva (00:46:33):
And when you look back at these and you remember thinking, oh, that's not that bad. I remember when we took this being like, oh, that didn't turn out too bad.

Ashley (00:46:41):
I know, but it still happens today. Literally the next day we have a same similar picture. And I'm like, oh my God, I looked 300 pounds. And I'm like, don't post that. And then I'm like, oh my gosh, Ashley, you just kind of, it just doesn't go away.

Eva (00:47:05):
All those years when my girls were tiny, I have almost no pictures of myself.

Ashley (00:47:12):
I think that's common. I do think that's common for women in general, for mothers, because usually one that's taking the pictures, but even more so if you're not comfortable with yourself. All mine are, if I have in front of me or I'm holding her or you know what I mean?

Eva (00:47:28):
They're a great block for something for some part of your body.

Ashley (00:47:32):
And mine, she's like five one now five two. And she just turned ten. And so she was a great, and she's always been tall. I would just put her right in front of me. But now I make her, it's funny, she's so proud of me, which I was worried about what message I was sending to her, but she's so proud and she helped me recover. And she loved me being high on drugs when I got home on pain meds. Right?

Eva (00:47:57):
Oh, I bet that was hilarious.

Ashley (00:47:59):
She loved it. But now when we take a picture, she's standing right next to me. She's not in front of me. She's standing next to me. And I always tell her, I have her go to chiropractic. She goes to a chiropractor therapy. I am like, girl, we're taking care of you. We are doing it right this time. Everything's not going to be in the dark. You're going to have an avenue. So

Eva (00:48:21):
When you got kind of through the first, I don't know, six months, you lost 50 pounds in six months, right?

Ashley (00:48:29):
Yes. Yes.

Eva (00:48:30):
At what point did you let yourself go shopping and start buying new clothes? Do you remember?

Ashley (00:48:36):
I don't think I did start buying new clothes until, because I'm going to be honest with you, I already had 'em.

Eva (00:48:45):
Oh, you kept them.

Ashley (00:48:47):
I had clothes.

Eva (00:48:48):
I did too. Yeah.

Ashley (00:48:49):
I mean size 12, all the way up to size 22. So I didn't buy new clothes. In fact, I still wear these shirts. My boyfriend's like, I think it's time to get rid of them, Ashley. But they're really cute shirts and they're intentionally flowy and they tuck in.

Eva (00:49:08):
They're like nightgowns now.

Ashley (00:49:09):
And he's like, enough, you need to buy a shirt that fits you. But it's just still shocking to me to go shopping. We were in Sedona this weekend, and I was like, I want to go into these boutique shops. And you know what I did when I got in them? I didn't go to the clothes. Guess where I went?

Eva (00:49:29):
Jewelry.

Ashley (00:49:29):
All the accessories, right? Cuz that's where I used to shop safe. And so she was like, what about this, my sister-in-law? I was like, what about this little crochet outfit? I'm like, oh my God, it's so cute. Oh,

Eva (00:49:42):
For someone else.

Ashley (00:49:43):
I know. But I was like, oh, maybe that could fit. You know what I mean? Maybe that could fit me. It's just crazy.

Eva (00:49:55):
I have my sunglasses. I have quite a sunglasses collection. I can't even see myself. But most of them are so big now because my face is smaller.

Ashley (00:50:06):
It's so true. Every little thing. Every little thing. I used to, when I go to the doctor, the blood pressure cuff. I went just randomly, I was in Seattle. I wasn't feeling good. So I went and got an IV and they checked my blood pressure and I was like, was that a regular sized cuff? And the nurse looked at me, like I was crazy. And I was like, I'm sorry. I've lost a lot of weight. And normally they have to go to another room to find a bigger cuff or they put it down below and you just put a regular sized cuff on and it was just nothing. It was just incredible. And I feel like it sucks, but people are nicer to you. They're just nicer to you.

Eva (00:50:49):
They are.

Ashley (00:50:50):
And I hate it.

Eva (00:50:51):
I know.

Ashley (00:50:53):
I travel so much and I have not, the last 10 flights I've been on, I probably got my bag from the overhead bin one time. Once.

Eva (00:51:04):
Because someone helped you?

Ashley (00:51:05):
Yeah. Oh, is this your bag? Well, let me get it for you. I'm like, oh, thanks, thanks. And then I'm like, you wouldn't have helped me at 300 pounds.

Eva (00:51:15):
Uhuh.

Ashley (00:51:17):
Yeah,

Eva (00:51:17):
No way.

Ashley (00:51:18):
Exactly. So it's just those little things that you're just,

Eva (00:51:21):
There was a right before I went out on maternity leave and I worked in Seattle for a long time. I commuted back and forth, and I remember being seven months maybe, and I only had a month of work or a month of being up there left. I stopped traveling around eight months.

Ashley (00:51:37):
Oh my.

Eva (00:51:38):
Which I can't believe I did that

Ashley (00:51:40):
I was going to say.

Eva (00:51:40):
I was mental. I needed the seatbelt extension by the end there, right?

Ashley (00:51:45):
Yeah.

Eva (00:51:45):
I would ask for it when I got on and they would bring it to me. But it was sort of like, well, I'm pregnant, so of course they need it.

Ashley (00:51:51):
Yes.

Eva (00:51:52):
And my boss, I remember her saying to me that someone else, one of the vice presidents was like, I didn't even know she was pregnant.

Ashley (00:52:02):
Oh gosh.

Eva (00:52:02):
First of all, why would you tell me that?

Ashley (00:52:04):
Yeah, you didn't think that one hurt.

Eva (00:52:06):
You should have never passed that sentence along to me. What is it? 10 years later? And I still remember how much it hurt.

Ashley (00:52:14):
But did your boss know that that hurt you? Did they realize it or was it just not even a,

Eva (00:52:23):
I'm sure she did.

Ashley (00:52:24):
Oh, well, that's just not good. That's not kind.

Eva (00:52:30):
One of the best things I've done. And I will tell you, because I hope that you get a chance to do this too, is I actually, I accident ran into someone who helped with closet clean out, but she's a stylist. She wasn't like a organizer. So she's coming from a different side. And I was so frustrated. I don't know how to dress myself at all. I don't know what looks good. I don't know what to wear. I don't know how to put outfits together because all I ever did was wear this nice black shirt and these nice black pants, and maybe I'll put on gray on a very happy day.

Ashley (00:53:06):
Black, gray, white.

Eva (00:53:08):
No, white. Not even white.

Ashley (00:53:09):
I would do white as I would put a little cardigan over me tied to pop off the black.

Eva (00:53:17):
Cute, cute.

Ashley (00:53:18):
I wouldn't wear white like a shirt,

Eva (00:53:20):
Not a white shirt. Well, I met this person, this stylist, through a church event, and she came over to my house and she helped me with the last closet clean out. So I had already done it five or six times.

Ashley (00:53:34):
Good.

Eva (00:53:34):
And the last one was really the fine tuning. And then she told me how to put it in the right order, in what color order. And she made me a list of what I was missing. And that was revolutionary because now that I have the stuff that was missing, they were like basics. But they were required for you to put an outfit together on any given day in any configuration. And now that I have done that, I feel like I can go in the closet and put on a great outfit every time. But before that, I would probably change anytime we went somewhere, I'm not joking when I say I would change five times before we left the house. Every time.

Ashley (00:54:13):
Even after you lost the weight?

Eva (00:54:15):
Yes. Because I didn't know what to do. And it's because I was missing things.

Ashley (00:54:20):
Yes, like staple pieces.

Eva (00:54:23):
Yeah. So now she's someone that I regularly work with, especially if I have a big work event coming, or I wanted to be seen a certain way at work differently. Not quiet behind the scenes person, but now I'm a confident business owner who is both intelligent and put together, and she helped me figure out how to do that.

Ashley (00:54:48):
Oh, that's amazing. You definitely have to pass that on.

Eva (00:54:50):
That's a process. I will

Ashley (00:54:52):
Pass that info on. I'm still the person that's like, oh,

Eva (00:54:56):
You would love her.

Ashley (00:54:57):
Yeah. I don't think I can wear that. Yeah, I buy it and then I think, Ooh, no. And now I am at least giving it away instead of saving it.

Eva (00:55:08):
Yeah, I've gotten rid of most of it. I still have my largest jeans ever.

Ashley (00:55:12):
Have you done a side-by-side? Have you gotten in one leg?

Eva (00:55:15):
I've done it on this show, but the other thing I do down there in Dr. B's office, they have been taking my after photos for me, is I bring the outfit that I'm wearing in the before photos and I put it on for the after photos so you can see me in the clothes that are in that. So I owe them an update. I think last time we did it, I was at 215, so I've gone from 280 to 184.

Ashley (00:55:41):
Oh my God, that's amazing.

Eva (00:55:42):
And I'd like to be 170, but I'm not obsessed with that with it. Yeah.

Ashley (00:55:48):
I feel like that's kind of where I am. I'm hanging out at 183, gained weight during surgery, the fluid and all that stuff. Got it all back off. But now I'm just kind of like, okay, what's next?

Eva (00:56:00):
Our audience knows that I have an unfortunate addiction to Juice Land, which actually, if I'm being honest, is part of, I think it's a over

Ashley (00:56:08):
What's Juice Land?

Eva (00:56:09):
Of my bingey behavior. It's a smoothie place and I've been drinking them for a really long time, and I will replace a meal. It's not like I'm having Juice Land and eating lunch. I eat it instead. But I finally looked up the sugar in the smoothie that I have, and it's like 65 grams of sugar.

Ashley (00:56:30):
That's your daily, right? The intake for the day.

Eva (00:56:34):
Yeah. I mean it's a lot of sugar.

Ashley (00:56:38):
I can't remember how much sugar you can have a day?

Eva (00:56:41):
I don't know. But I look at the kids, do you do this at the grocery store? I look at the kid's yogurt and it'll be like 16 grams of sugar in a kid's yogurt. I'll be like, nope.

Ashley (00:56:51):
Somehow I got my kiddo on Greek yogurt.

Eva (00:56:55):
She likes it.

Ashley (00:56:56):
She does. She makes herself a little parfait with granola and strawberries and raspberries. And so we've just gone she even likes the protein ones, like the oikos or whatever. And I think, alright, well if you're going to eat this, then I'm going to feel good about your breakfast choices.

Eva (00:57:14):
I'll try it.

Ashley (00:57:16):
Try a little honey too, if it's too tangy. S,he started with honey now she doesn't use it, but tried to make it a little sweeter naturally.

Eva (00:57:27):
Well, what's next for you?

Ashley (00:57:31):
Honestly, I'm trying to figure out what is next for me. I truly, thoroughly enjoy public speaking. I love doing, whether it's a keynote or training, especially in corporate America, I just feel I really like it. It's something I enjoy. Done some podcast episodes. I want to, I'm in the middle of writing a book. I mean, my story's crazy. I've got a little bit of a Jerry Springer life,

Eva (00:57:59):
Huh. I'm an hour in and you haven't brought this up. What do you mean?

Ashley (00:58:03):
Oh, I've just got stories, man. I've learned a lot of lessons in my life and I've made a lot of mistakes and I've learned from them and I learned that they make you stronger. And I don't know. I want to do something that's really impactful for other humans, especially.

Eva (00:58:21):
It sounds like a podcast.

Ashley (00:58:25):
I've thought about it, but then you kind of never know. Never know if someone's going to want to listen to you chit chat.

Eva (00:58:32):
Well, let's find out. Audience, we would love to hear your feedback about this episode?

Ashley (00:58:36):
Please.

Eva (00:58:37):
And should we have Ashley come back? I think we should. She doesn't know Kami yet.

Ashley (00:58:41):
Oh, I need to meet Kami.

Eva (00:58:43):
Opposite of same. We're the same, but she's totally way more snarky than I am.

Ashley (00:58:48):
I'm going to have to go back and listen.

Eva (00:58:49):
Very sassy,

Ashley (00:58:50):
Listen to your stuff. I just listened to a couple today, but now I have a whole bunch of episodes to listen to. So I thank you. I have my standards that I listen to, and sometimes I go through my podcasts, I'm done, and I'm like, what am I going to listen to? So I turned to true crime, but now I'll turn to you guys.

Eva (00:59:07):
We're at stage where we're trying to figure out what should we be talking about to keep helping the audience because in the beginning it was easy. She was just starting her meds and now we're halfway through the journey and you're in front of us and you have talked to people who are in front of you.

Ashley (00:59:24):
Yes,

Eva (00:59:24):
And so I think the conversation just continues.

Ashley (00:59:28):
I love it. I love it. I would love to come back. Let me know, and I would love to meet you for lunch when you're here. Holler.

Eva (00:59:35):
For sure. For sure.

Ashley (00:59:37):
I'm pretty flexible unless I'm traveling, so

Eva (00:59:41):
Thank you, Ashley.

Ashley (00:59:42):
Thank you so much. Nice to meet you.

Eva (00:59:45):
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